LeeM Posted 31October, 2018 Report Share Posted 31October, 2018 I have an older Samsung S7, and have always had to enable Mobile Data to send and receive picture messages (mms) until a week or so ago. Now all of a sudden I don't have to and haven't done a software update yet the missus has a later Samsung phone buy still has to enable Mobile Data. I've looked online but can't see anything, yet cam anyone shed some light on why all of a sudden this has happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew F Posted 31October, 2018 Report Share Posted 31October, 2018 I had a similar thing with my LG G4 until recently. Spooky. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 31October, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 31October, 2018 12 minutes ago, Stew F said: I had a similar thing with my LG G4 until recently. Spooky. ? I never do a software update, as 9/10 times it slows my phone down (spose 10billion photos doesn't help there) or I just don't trust downloading them. I thought it was just weird that all of a sudden I don't need to enable Mobile Data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 31October, 2018 Report Share Posted 31October, 2018 Why isn’t your mobile data on all the time? Anywya, are you sending the pictures while in wifi coverage? Phones can use wifi to send messages, though I know nothing about Samsung phones and the evil empires ‘free’ OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 31October, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 31October, 2018 6 minutes ago, Coastr said: Why isn’t your mobile data on all the time? Anywya, are you sending the pictures while in wifi coverage? Phones can use wifi to send messages, though I know nothing about Samsung phones and the evil empires ‘free’ OS I was always told to turn off data unless there is no Wi-Fi available, as it does chew through the monthly 9gb allowance if I leave it on I've now sent and received pics via mms without data enabled or in Wi-Fi range for some reason. I think it may have upgraded itself coupla weeks ago, as a new icon is visible at the top of the screen which is apparently for making calls via WiFi, yet I turned that off and can still send pics messages without data enabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 31October, 2018 Report Share Posted 31October, 2018 It is becoming self aware .................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 31October, 2018 Report Share Posted 31October, 2018 1 hour ago, LeeM said: I was always told to turn off data unless there is no Wi-Fi available, as it does chew through the monthly 9gb allowance if I leave it on I've now sent and received pics via mms without data enabled or in Wi-Fi range for some reason. I think it may have upgraded itself coupla weeks ago, as a new icon is visible at the top of the screen which is apparently for making calls via WiFi, yet I turned that off and can still send pics messages without data enabled. You have 9gb per month and are worried about using too much!! We have 5gb between my wife and I, and never get near the limit! What are you sending?? Leave it on for one month and see how you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOKA Posted 31October, 2018 Report Share Posted 31October, 2018 7 hours ago, Stew F said: I had a similar thing with my LG G4 until recently. Spooky. ? LG G4.! Noooo.. Quick, back up everything before the main board fails.. POS of a thing. I had a similiar issue (with LG G4 until it DIED) in that it seemed to compress the image before it would send via the G's. Wifi was fine. I thought it was a carrier problem, but when I got my Pixel on the same carrier all was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 31October, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 31October, 2018 1 hour ago, ANF said: You have 9gb per month and are worried about using too much!! We have 5gb between my wife and I, and never get near the limit! What are you sending?? Leave it on for one month and see how you go. Not worries about it, though at their peak rate it gets used up pretty quickly and I get charged more for extra gig. I'm using data now as I'm onsite though switch it off when I leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 31October, 2018 Report Share Posted 31October, 2018 Since we all tolerate a drift. Is there truth to the rumor that the metadata bank has been hacked and ransom demands? I was half asleep last night watching ABC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 1November, 2018 Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 Laugh out loud. ??? Apparently it was a show that does hypothetical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daly87 Posted 1November, 2018 Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 5 hours ago, ANF said: You have 9gb per month and are worried about using too much!! We have 5gb between my wife and I, and never get near the limit! What are you sending?? Leave it on for one month and see how you go. This. I use my phone data allll the time, tether it as a local data hotspot for my laptop where emails are huge and I access the work server for large files. I download music watch videos etc. Never come close to 9gb a month. I would suggest monitoring your usage using the phones data counter, this website is great to give you a few ways on how to track it... Id make sure you use every bit of data you have - not much in this world is free https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-203744/ From a Home screen, swipe up or down from the center of the display to access the apps screen. These instructions only apply to Standard mode and the default Home screen layout. Navigate: Settings > Connections > Data usage. From the Mobile section, tap Billing cycle and data warning. Tap the Limit mobile data usage switch to turn on . If prompted, review the message then tap OK. Tap Data limit. Enter the desired level (e.g., 2.0GB) then tap SET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 1November, 2018 Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 6 hours ago, LeeM said: I was always told to turn off data unless there is no Wi-Fi available, as it does chew through the monthly 9gb allowance if I leave it on How do you use up 9G a month Lee? I have 3 days left for my month and have 6.7G left. I always have my phone with me, always, always taking pics, Insta, youtube etc, also no WIFI where i work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 1November, 2018 Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 34 minutes ago, TINGY944 said: How do you use up 9G a month Lee? I have 3 days left for my month and have 6.7G left. I always have my phone with me, always, always taking pics, Insta, youtube etc, also no WIFI where i work. Like me, I would say @LeeM wouldn`t have a bloody clue how much what uses, or how to figure it out, so defers to safety and switches it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocketscience Posted 1November, 2018 Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 7 hours ago, Coastr said: Why isn’t your mobile data on all the time? Anywya, are you sending the pictures while in wifi coverage? Phones can use wifi to send messages, though I know nothing about Samsung phones and the evil empires ‘free’ OS Lee specifically mentioned MMS which will always use the cellular network, not Wifi even if available. The MMS infrastructure is a walled-garden service only accessible via the carriers cellular infrastructure otherwise they'd have to open it up to the general internet which is a can of worms obviously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 1November, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 4 hours ago, TINGY944 said: How do you use up 9G a month Lee? I have 3 days left for my month and have 6.7G left. I always have my phone with me, always, always taking pics, Insta, youtube etc, also no WIFI where i work. I don't use 9G a month and doubt I've reached 5Gig. I'd have to download a shitload of vidoes for that to happen. I get a warning after I've used 2G, yet that's only happened twice. I've always been told to turn data off if I'm not using the internet 3 hours ago, pocketscience said: Lee specifically mentioned MMS which will always use the cellular network, not Wifi even if available. The MMS infrastructure is a walled-garden service only accessible via the carriers cellular infrastructure otherwise they'd have to open it up to the general internet which is a can of worms obviously... Correct. My original question is why can I now send and receive mms without data being enabled and not even near any Wi-Fi. Happened onsite today where I received pics and emails without mobile data active. Weird 4 hours ago, StevepGT3 said: Like me, I would say @LeeM wouldn`t have a bloody clue how much what uses, or how to figure it out, so defers to safety and switches it off Nailed it ??I have no friggin idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 1November, 2018 Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 I'm still on an S5. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew F Posted 1November, 2018 Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 10 hours ago, WOKA said: LG G4.! Noooo.. Quick, back up everything before the main board fails.. POS of a thing. I had a similiar issue (with LG G4 until it DIED) in that it seemed to compress the image before it would send via the G's. Wifi was fine. I thought it was a carrier problem, but when I got my Pixel on the same carrier all was fine. I had that happen when the phone was a bit over a year old. LG replaced it with the updated version with the later MB and firmware. Been excellent ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowDieselGolf Posted 1November, 2018 Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 Maybe there was a carrier settings update? Also: I barely use 2GB a month. Something weird is going on with your usage Lee. My provider has an app which shows where my data has been used. Maybe check with your provider and see if they offer something similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 1November, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 32 minutes ago, YellowDieselGolf said: Maybe there was a carrier settings update? Also: I barely use 2GB a month. Something weird is going on with your usage Lee. My provider has an app which shows where my data has been used. Maybe check with your provider and see if they offer something similar? That's what a noob lime me was thinking re the carrier update. I'm with Vodafone, and as much as they get a bad rap, I've never had any dramas for years I'll have a look online for the data usage thing. Cheers for that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 1November, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 I've just got off the phone to Vodafone, and even they can't explain why I can send mms without enabling Mobile Data. The tech support bloke (whom I'll call Trevor, as his name was Pragbarashnish or something) And he said he'd never heard of it happening before. I explained that even within Wi-Fi range 3 weeks ago, I would get a notifciation that I had to enable data, yet now I don't and can send mms anywhere, anytime with or without data or in Wi-Fi range. There has not been, nor will there be any carrier updates until 5g comes on So there ya have it, Even Trevor is stumped! Oh, and for those posting about my gig usage, I checked my data usage thingy online, and I have used 2.5gb in 3 weeks out of an available 11.5gb which is my monthly allowance that reboots in 9 days time Thanks all for your comments. Me and Vodafone Trevor are still stumped! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirthO Posted 1November, 2018 Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 @LeeM you were probably recommended to turn data off when data was extremely expensive. Its a lot cheaper now and 9gb for a phone for every day use is generally ample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 1November, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 10 minutes ago, wirthO said: @LeeM you were probably recommended to turn data off when data was extremely expensive. Its a lot cheaper now and 9gb for a phone for every day use is generally ample. Fair point. I just use Wi-Fi at home and switch on the data when I'm out. No biggy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 1November, 2018 Report Share Posted 1November, 2018 There’s no increased safety in terms of ‘hack proof’ by turning off data. You’d only do it to avoid high charges, like when you fly international. If you aren’t hitting monthly quotas then no real advantage to having it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 5November, 2018 Report Share Posted 5November, 2018 On 01/11/2018 at 18:43, firstone said: I'm still on an S5. ? Wife's S4 here. Only so I can use Spotify. And receive the occasional call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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