sleazius Posted 28January, 2022 Report Share Posted 28January, 2022 Didn't notice where it came from, either AG or PCA, but I got an email with a survey which was basically "we're electrifying the 911, will you still buy it?" Anyone else get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC9911 Posted 28January, 2022 Report Share Posted 28January, 2022 Yes, I received it, definitely a fishing exercise to gauge how acceptable an EV 911 would be, I gave it short shrift, that’s a no from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 28January, 2022 Report Share Posted 28January, 2022 Have not got the email yet but that would be a big NO for me also ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damienb Posted 28January, 2022 Report Share Posted 28January, 2022 Is an electrified 911 better than none at all? I'd say yes. That is just the reality of where the world is heading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 28January, 2022 Report Share Posted 28January, 2022 Ooh, an EV that handles. Whoopee 🙄 Like every other EV, it'll be a worthless throwaway you'll struggle to trade in or sell when the batteries need replacing. I imagine the Taycan will be a good yardstick to see how they go with resale in a year or 2 Dalai, WB997.2GTS and 3legs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted 28January, 2022 Author Report Share Posted 28January, 2022 I'd take a mild hybrid with an NA motor. But the reality is the only thing that will meet Euro emissions laws is full BEV past 2040. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 28January, 2022 Report Share Posted 28January, 2022 Well I definitely remember Porsche saying that the 911 will never be an EV, never say never...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC9911 Posted 28January, 2022 Report Share Posted 28January, 2022 After completing the survey & noting how it was worded I am of the opinion that it’s a done deal in Porsche HQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalai Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 18 minutes ago, TINGY said: Well I definitely remember Porsche saying that the 911 will never be an EV, never say never...... Maybe they will renumber it? Perhaps 912... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 32 minutes ago, Dalai said: Maybe they will renumber it? Perhaps 912... Or a 914. That'll sell like hot cakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 The 718 Cayman and Boxster have been earmarked for their EV cars from 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550Spyder Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 You have clearly never seen the movie THE CRYING GAME. Time to buy a bus pass because that is no 911 underneath the clothing… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 You may see the GT cars go Hybrid for a short period of time , but sadly it seems the ICE Porsche,s days are numbered .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 I'm not against EV's, yet a hybrid makes a lot more sense to me, as you have the best of both worlds. Hate to say how successful they've been, but look at a Prius! If my memory serves me correctly, Porsche used to have some huge electrical scavenging system in some Le Mans cup cars as a study for their return to LMP1 series which they became so successful at very quickly, yet to go full EV on their flagship model is just lunacy in my opinion. Macan, Cayenne, Taycan etc fine, as they're commuter vehicles designed for what they do...carry people and go to the shops in. A 911 is a pure sportscar, not a grocery getter Yeatesy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 32 minutes ago, LeeM said: I'm not against EV's, yet a hybrid makes a lot more sense to me, as you have the best of both worlds. Hate to say how successful they've been, but look at a Prius! If my memory serves me correctly, Porsche used to have some huge electrical scavenging system in some Le Mans cup cars as a study for their return to LMP1 series which they became so successful at very quickly, yet to go full EV on their flagship model is just lunacy in my opinion. Macan, Cayenne, Taycan etc fine, as they're commuter vehicles designed for what they do...carry people and go to the shops in. A 911 is a pure sportscar, not a grocery getter Yes they had a Hybrid 997 GT3 R and had great success with it on the track 480hp ICE and 2 X100HP EV motors on front end along with the obvious 918 hybrid , Porsche certainly know how to do a good hybrid ... That sort of Tech in a future 911 would be wonderful .. LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted 29January, 2022 Author Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 5 hours ago, GC9911 said: After completing the survey & noting how it was worded I am of the opinion that it’s a done deal in Porsche HQ. This is why I asked the question, it didn't leave much doubt what they'd already decided. Just gauging if we'd still buy it. GC9911 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 2 hours ago, Raven said: Porsche certainly know how to do a good hybrid ... That sort of Tech in a future 911 would be wonderful .. Which begs the question: Why on earth would they build a 911 solely as an EV? Noone can convince me that any government in the world are happy to forego the billions, if not trillions of dollars worth of fuel taxes just to make themselves look like they're concerned about global warming by implementing an EV mandate to manufacturers. They're politicians, there's always an alterior motive, and it's never good for the consumer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 57 minutes ago, LeeM said: Which begs the question: Why on earth would they build a 911 solely as an EV? Noone can convince me that any government in the world are happy to forego the billions, if not trillions of dollars worth of fuel taxes just to make themselves look like they're concerned about global warming by implementing an EV mandate to manufacturers. They're politicians, there's always an alterior motive, and it's never good for the consumer. Honestly I dont know but from all indications the end is coming at least in Europe for the ICE car , or is this just some grand scheme to put us in a buying frenzy about losing our beloved 911 and spend spend spend before its gone ...??? I agree with what your saying about fuel tax,s and trillions to still be made off the back ICE cars , Yeh I honestly dont know ,but I plan on getting myself in a Porsche GT car very soon.. LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1q2w3e4r Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 1 hour ago, LeeM said: Which begs the question: Why on earth would they build a 911 solely as an EV? Noone can convince me that any government in the world are happy to forego the billions, if not trillions of dollars worth of fuel taxes just to make themselves look like they're concerned about global warming by implementing an EV mandate to manufacturers. They're politicians, there's always an alterior motive, and it's never good for the consumer. The fuel taxes will still exist, the entire existing fleet of ICE vehicles will require fuel long term. MFX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 There not, It's the Cayman from 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 This might be an indication of what we end up getting. Looks more Cayman than 911 to me. Raven and tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted 29January, 2022 Author Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 3 hours ago, LeeM said: Which begs the question: Why on earth would they build a 911 solely as an EV? Noone can convince me that any government in the world are happy to forego the billions, if not trillions of dollars worth of fuel taxes just to make themselves look like they're concerned about global warming by implementing an EV mandate to manufacturers. They're politicians, there's always an alterior motive, and it's never good for the consumer. Road Usage Tax. They may not call it that, but that is in effect what will happen. All EVs will be slapped with it eventually, while the ICE cars keep paying excise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 7 hours ago, Raven said: Yes they had a Hybrid 997 GT3 R and had great success with it on the track 480hp ICE and 2 X100HP EV motors on front end along with the obvious 918 hybrid , Porsche certainly know how to do a good hybrid ... That sort of Tech in a future 911 would be wonderful .. This is exactly the formula I’m hoping for since I can only dream of the GMA T33… Plus my current lot of 911 should be close to getting their pension cards (historic rego) by then 😁 Raven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 5 hours ago, sleazius said: Road Usage Tax. They may not call it that, but that is in effect what will happen. All EVs will be slapped with it eventually, while the ICE cars keep paying excise. Yep, the SA government were pushing for everyone to buy ev's, then last year they mentioned they're looking at adding that road usage tax to them, when they originally said they wouldn't. The federal government are doing exactly the same thing. Strange for a politician to lie isn't it? 🙄 Raven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 29January, 2022 Report Share Posted 29January, 2022 5 hours ago, LeeM said: Yep, the SA government were pushing for everyone to buy ev's, then last year they mentioned they're looking at adding that road usage tax to them, when they originally said they wouldn't. The federal government are doing exactly the same thing. Strange for a politician to lie isn't it? 🙄 How else can the Dead shits keep up their exotic lifestyle of booze, drugs, and whoring unless the public pays for it .....GRUBS 8 hours ago, edgy said: This is exactly the formula I’m hoping for since I can only dream of the GMA T33… Plus my current lot of 911 should be close to getting their pension cards (historic rego) by then 😁 Will be interesting to see if the GT3 and GT4 go this way for a period of time , it is certainly one way to get around the emissions laws and the combination of Hybrid power trains has worked well in both 918 and 919 LMP1 racer , would be a good thing , eg best of both worlds .. LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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