TOMB Posted 13August, 2014 Report Share Posted 13August, 2014 In any case, this car now appears to be sold. Also, since the asking price was actually nowhere listed, perhaps speculation in that regard may have erred on the high side....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevMcRev Posted 13August, 2014 Report Share Posted 13August, 2014 Seemed like a good idea at the time..... http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-1972/SSE-AD-2945441/?Cr=56&sdmvc=1 Before: Started life as a 72 Viper Green longhood.... And......After! Updated to SC Still seems like a nice car, but I would have loved it left alone.... Is it worth the time and money to try to turn back time on this one.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 13August, 2014 Report Share Posted 13August, 2014 Green longhood '72 is worth what , now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 13August, 2014 Report Share Posted 13August, 2014 Does any one know this car? Thinking about it as a weekend driver/backdate"http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-1983/SSE-AD-2941509/?Cr=23&sdmvc=1 It came out on an SMT with us on one occasion and from memory it had a very small fuel tank - just depends how far your planning to drive for your weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 13August, 2014 Report Share Posted 13August, 2014 Seemed like a good idea at the time.....http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-1972/SSE-AD-2945441/?Cr=56&sdmvc=1 Before: Started life as a 72 Viper Green longhood.... And......After! Updated to SC Still seems like a nice car, but I would have loved it left alone.... Is it worth the time and money to try to turn back time on this one.....? How good is the conversion? Unlikely... Not with the current buy price... And seems everything 72 got deleted engine incuded? Green longhood '72 is worth what , now? An uncanny comparison http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?102389-FS-1972-Porsche-911T-Coupe-w-A-C-matching-number-project-car&highlight=1972 T,E 50k -100k ++ S++++ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-banger Posted 13August, 2014 Report Share Posted 13August, 2014 Green longhood '72 is worth what , now? A very respected and knowledgeable 901'er values a great T at $100k in this market.http://www.typ901.org/showthread.php?t=5172 Other considerations, - the car being discussed is a US import, - arguably worth more if returned to LHD, - '72 unique for their single model year external oil filler and mid mounted oil tank, - if truly rust free would save big bucks for a resto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 13August, 2014 Report Share Posted 13August, 2014 - '72 unique for their single model year external oil filler and mid mounted oil tank, That famed oil tank! It's like the "million dollar view"! I wonder if I can backdate my oil tank and add some value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-banger Posted 13August, 2014 Report Share Posted 13August, 2014 That famed oil tank! It's like the "million dollar view"! I wonder if I can backdate my oil tank and add some value? Yes I tend to agree. I've never heard anyone say "I want to buy a '72 because it has an external oil filler". It's more '72 owners saying "mine has got the external oil tank". No offence to '72 owners, and definitely not all '72 owners say this. Having said that, it is a nice story and a good example of Porsche striving for peak performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-banger Posted 13August, 2014 Report Share Posted 13August, 2014 It came out on an SMT with us on one occasion and from memory it had a very small fuel tank - just depends how far your planning to drive for your weekend. I think it had a racing fuel cell installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 13August, 2014 Report Share Posted 13August, 2014 The cost of finding all the parts to return to 72 spec would be prohibitive- maybe if you had a rusty basket case and made one car from two. Everything has been replaced with SC spec stuff- even the steering wheel. All the brightwork (assuming it wasn't just painted over) - mirrors, trims, bumpers, panels, even the oil filler door - stuff like that is not going to be easy to find. I mean, with the prices they way they are, you could do it and get ahead I guess. But if the original engine and injection is gone (says it has a 2.7) then the finished value isn't going to be as strong. On top of all that, it's going to take some time and you have to bet that prices don't soften while you get done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 I"m an avid reader of this thread......and it's got me stupmed. Why would one pay: c. $89k for a 964 c. $100k for a 3.2 or any of the recent prices quoted in this thread, suprises me. Some of these cars are approaching 200,000 kms too; second hand, old, cars. 911's yes, but they are old cars with high km and will require substantial recomissioning at some point. This seems crazy especially when a Metzger engined Turbo or Mk1 GT3 could be had for 'round-abouts' the same money, if you looked hard. When a given 964 is 200,000 km and 30 years old, and a comparative Mk1 GT3 is 20 years old with 100,000 km on the clock, which example will everone want then? I'm ony talking 6 or 7 years away..... Nuts ? - discuss. (oh, I've owned an early 911 since 1991, & I do "get" it as an enthusiast, but at these asking prices, really ?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch-monkey Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 i guess people want the aircooled stuff, and there is a limited amount available (clean ones that is.. plenty of haggard examples still). i personally don't care about km on the odometer haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 As has been mentioned , the really good & original air cooled ones are starting to go from enthusiasts to collectors. The latter are not cash strapped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 I"m an avid reader of this thread......and it's got me stupmed. Why would one pay: c. $89k for a 964 c. $100k for a 3.2 or any of the recent prices quoted in this thread, suprises me. Some of these cars are approaching 200,000 kms too; second hand, old, cars. 911's yes, but they are old cars with high km and will require substantial recomissioning at some point. This seems crazy especially when a Metzger engined Turbo or Mk1 GT3 could be had for 'round-abouts' the same money, if you looked hard. When a given 964 is 200,000 km and 30 years old, and a comparative Mk1 GT3 is 20 years old with 100,000 km on the clock, which example will everone want then? I'm ony talking 6 or 7 years away..... Nuts ? - discuss. (oh, I've owned an early 911 since 1991, & I do "get" it as an enthusiast, but at these asking prices, really ?) Stewart youre been a bit ribald ... discuss KGB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 Stewart youre been a bit ribald ... discuss yes, Most bawdy when it comes to Porsches.......like a Benny Hill movie.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 yes, Most bawdy when it comes to Porsches.......like a Benny Hill movie.... Or as he said in the Italian Job "I like 'em big!" You'd be all over this thread eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 I"m an avid reader of this thread......and it's got me stupmed. Why would one pay: c. $89k for a 964 c. $100k for a 3.2 or any of the recent prices quoted in this thread, suprises me. Some of these cars are approaching 200,000 kms too; second hand, old, cars. 911's yes, but they are old cars with high km and will require substantial recomissioning at some point. This seems crazy especially when a Metzger engined Turbo or Mk1 GT3 could be had for 'round-abouts' the same money, if you looked hard. When a given 964 is 200,000 km and 30 years old, and a comparative Mk1 GT3 is 20 years old with 100,000 km on the clock, which example will everone want then? I'm ony talking 6 or 7 years away..... Nuts ? - discuss. (oh, I've owned an early 911 since 1991, & I do "get" it as an enthusiast, but at these asking prices, really ?) Or how about a 997 / 997S even. We are talking about a C2 here, its not like it was a special model at the time. I do totally get the collector bent though, I'm trying to figure out exactly when to jump into a 997 GT3 RS before the collectors decide thats a goer. If its anything like my share picking ability, I'm stuffed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 I'd say there are less 964 C2's than 997's though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 I'd say there are less 964 C2's than 997's though No question - 997s were the most produced 911 ever. Should have clarified. From an enthusiast standpoint the ever upward pricing of the c2 964 brings p-cars into range that you can easily drive every day which includes late models like the 997. Obviously some people can't see past aircooled, but the option is there given the pricing to pick up something that you can drive every day, and isn't as likely to break down. It was a compelling argument for me. Smile on my dial every time I drive, or smile on my dial on the weekend only. Obviously I made my choice, but given the recent hikes in pricing you would think for an enthusiast with a set budget, its got to make the choice harder. From a collector standpoint you aren't going to take the plain jane 997, there were too many of them to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 I've got 4 Porsches 1978-1985 ; the 944 overheated once on the way to the airport (thermostat had seized). Other than that , they are all daily drives and have been completely reliable , year round. As we know , Porsches are bulletproof Russ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 There's no doubt that a 996/997 is a much superior 'car' to the 964. It's going to suck if there's ever a time where people are reluctant to drive their air cooled cars due to value. Anyone else thinking about a 996 as a daily driver? I'm interested to play around ECU and CANBUS stuff and it'd be the perfect platform and if they keep going the way they're going it'll be a pretty cheap entrance fee - I wonder if they'll ever appreciate like the air cooled stuff eventually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 They blatantly bought a car for sale from carsales to add to their stock and onsell for a profit. Imagine that, a business buying stock at less than they sell it for. Innovative concept... edgy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 $14,000 986 Boxster with 169,000kms.. Cheap car for someone (the P plates, valve and caliper covers are a bit worrying though) - Might be a good car to buy and drive and then put a V8 in? http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-Boxster-1997/SSE-AD-2856701/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 I"m an avid reader of this thread......and it's got me stupmed. Why would one pay: c. $89k for a 964 c. $100k for a 3.2 or any of the recent prices quoted in this thread, suprises me. Some of these cars are approaching 200,000 kms too; second hand, old, cars. 911's yes, but they are old cars with high km and will require substantial recomissioning at some point. This seems crazy especially when a Metzger engined Turbo or Mk1 GT3 could be had for 'round-abouts' the same money, if you looked hard. When a given 964 is 200,000 km and 30 years old, and a comparative Mk1 GT3 is 20 years old with 100,000 km on the clock, which example will everone want then? I'm ony talking 6 or 7 years away..... Nuts ? - discuss. (oh, I've owned an early 911 since 1991, & I do "get" it as an enthusiast, but at these asking prices, really ?) Some people find the older cars interesting and that's why we discuss them on the "what's for sale (in Australia) and interesting thread" - I guess that's why some people pay more money for them. Just a guess though. 911barber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxzmusSC Posted 14August, 2014 Report Share Posted 14August, 2014 Some people find the older cars interesting and that's why we discuss them on the "what's for sale (in Australia) and interesting thread" - I guess that's why some people pay more money for them. Just a guess though. Well put mate…….I think that's why I haven't made it past 1980's cars : ). Will test that theory for myself once I'm able to afford a GT3 lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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