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I just put a deposit down on this 87 924S. Checking it out this weekend. It’s my first dive into the older Porsche’s after years of adoration. 
Prices just keep going up so I figured it was now or never. 
looks to be a really nice example, coming from a collector/car guy and has receipts for $6800 of major works done in 2018. I believe it was done at Autohaus Hamilton, in Sydney. 
 

anyway Was just wondering your thoughts? 
sorry if this is the wrong thread! 
first post :)
 

See pics here

 

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3 hours ago, JR90 said:

I just put a deposit down on this 87 924S. Checking it out this weekend. It’s my first dive into the older Porsche’s after years of adoration. 
Prices just keep going up so I figured it was now or never. 
looks to be a really nice example, coming from a collector/car guy and has receipts for $6800 of major works done in 2018. I believe it was done at Autohaus Hamilton, in Sydney. 
 

anyway Was just wondering your thoughts? 
sorry if this is the wrong thread! 
first post :)
 

See pics here

 

Welcome to the board JR90! That's a clean looking 924 you've got there.  I currently have my dash ripped out so that I can make it look like yours. Envy! 

I think you are correct, the 924 does seem to be becoming more valuable, especially nice examples like yours.  An import is fine as long as you knew it was an import, purchasing an import does seem to bring the advantage of not having as much UV damage with the interior.

The 924S engine is an interference engine so if you are not 100% across the history of your timing belt, I'd encourage you to tackle that early in your ownership journey.  Second bit of advice is get into a group that likes to go driving ... it's very easy for these cars to sit in the garage and 'appreciate' due to lack of kms. Don't do that!

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Thanks bear924! 
it looks great in pics, the seller also did extensive walk around videos and has been very honest with its flaws. Again, I’ll make my decision this weekend when I see it with my own two eyes!
Also, what do you mean by interference engine? 
I know these came with a slightly detuned 944 engine right? As far as I know the timing belt had been done within the last 30k. 

Finally, Anyone got a source for new rear cargo mats or carpets?

cheers! 

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Didn't realise you still have to pick it up.  I reckon that's about the most exciting/ nerve wrecking part of the Porsche ownership journey, the week before the collection ... that and when you remove timing covers and find a handful of metal bits depart with the cover (thank you weak SC cylinder head bolts).

The 924S/ 944 engines are an interference engine in that the cylinder head valves will hit the piston if the timing belt breaks.  Normally when this happens you bend a valve and sometimes smash a piston, either way it's not ideal and won't be an 'easy' fix.  This is very common in new cars as it is good engine design however it does make the timing belt a critical maintenance item.  A work mate owns a Golf GTI and had his timing belt/ chain fail (a recall on early Golfs that wasn't picked up even though his car was exclusively VW serviced) .. his cost was around the $10k mark.  

FYI - The NA 924 is a non interference engine. The 924 turbo  is an interference engine.  Doing the timing belt on a 924S/944 require a belt tensioning tool or enough skill to know the correct tension.  Lots on the interweb if you want to learn more. 

 

 

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I just did a bit of reading on interference engines, I’ll definitely get as much info when I check the car out. 
haha very excited to see the car, holding there’s nothing too ugly or discouraging to be honest. Would love to own it!

cheers mate 

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20 hours ago, crsedge said:

Did you buy it John? :)

No not for me...  No restorations in my immediate future :D

21 hours ago, 901er said:

Got a link Fishy? I can’t seem to find it

I couldn't get the FB ad to link here, adding the photo was as good as it got. 

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On 03/05/2019 at 18:18, bear924 said:

Rather than rebuild the distributor, I would send it to http://www.k-jet.biz/ and get it overhauled. I've used this company and service was good. The warm up regulator is the real brains of the CIS. Suggest you rebuild distributor and then buy a CIS fuel injection test kit and make sure it is set up correctly.  There is nothing that can be adjusted with the WUR however they can be overhauled by KJET however I suggest you hold off.  My guess is that as you put your car under load it is losing control of its AFR and either going too rich or too lean. The fuel smell suggests too rich, however that's verging on a wild guess. You may want to consider measuring your AFR, I've installed one in my car and it gives you some very valuable information. Also worth taking the car to a dyno ... not to measure HP, more to measure AFR over the range. Once you get your AFR set right, the car will run right. I wouldn't do that until you get the fuel distributor replaced ... the distributor is the wild card that you need to remove.

You could also find a specialist. Challenge is finding one who actually knows what they are doing and is willing to work on a non 911 Porsche. 

Hi Bear,

13 months later and more money than I care to admit (especially to the better half!) I am driving this car!

Here is how the journey went-

Initially I replaced leads dizzy cap, rotor, leads & plugs.

Then moved on to the Fuel distributor having it rebuilt by KJet, the injectors cleaned and set the mixture right. Sounded good and idled well but still coughing and spluttering continued under load when on the road.

Next it stopped idling when warm- there was no spark but this was rectified with a new ignition control module. My mind started boggling when I thought the cough and splutter could be the pulse sender or the ditc.

On the next drive it was overheating badly and needed to be towed home as I wouldn't run the risk of a head gasket.

I needed professional help (not a shrink, yet) and found it in the form of Spencer Harrison.

He rectified the cooling system, timing belt, brakes, fuel lines, vacuum lines, turbo drain line (upgraded) and many other minor bits and pieces.

The issue of coughing and spluttering..... Spence found that the flywheel had been installed incorrectly!

There are 6 bolts that hold the flywheel on (no key way or dowell) it was bolted up one bolt out.

Effectively 60 degrees out on the timing, how it even idled was beyond me.

It was a huge job but that first drive brought a tear to my eye (no joke), then the bill.

Seriously, thanks Spence! 

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2 hours ago, Ant924t said:

Without a doubt Airhead,

Its so much fun to drive and its ironic that I keep thinking of what can I update or restore on it next!

 

I've been having a love affair with mine for the past few years ... it puts the biggest smile on my face every time I drive it. It's hard to believe these cars are from the early 80's.

Enjoy! ... 😀

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Well done Ant!  When I rebuilt my engine a few years back I checked and checked the flywheel position in relation to tdc as I was concerned I'd stuff up the timing.  Seems not everyone is as careful.  Sounds like Spencer has given your car quite a birthday so that's great, they are remarkably reliable once they're set up. Everyone complains about the CIS fuel system, however once they're sorted, you won't need to touch again.  Looking at your engine, seems like most of the typical delayed maintenance has been resolved so you shouldn't have any issues for awhile.

Once the bank balance shock has subsided, the next potential 'to-do' is the suspension shocks.  If they are original they'll be dead.  Not a bad 'do it yourself' job. I replaced mine with new ones however in hindsight I'd possibly rebuild now.

Nice looking car though .. reckon at some stage we should do a 924 turbo meet up.  I'm currently refreshing my dash and air conditioning, once that's done I'm planning on doing a couple of longer drives! Mind you, Heathmont might be a tad too far!

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11 hours ago, bear924 said:

Nice looking car though .. reckon at some stage we should do a 924 turbo meet up.  I'm currently refreshing my dash and air conditioning, once that's done I'm planning on doing a couple of longer drives! Mind you, Heathmont might be a tad too far!

I live right in the middle .... just say'n! ... :Beer:

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1 hour ago, Ozvino said:

rare car if its a genuine series 1 - looks to be a lost cause, seats dont appear to be original

No reason not to believe that it's not a Series 1 ... has an S1 engine at least. Would need more pics and closer look. The location of the VIN would tell us straight away.

You'd probably be correct in thinking lost cause ... being a converted US car, it'd need more time and money than it'd ever be worth .. 😪

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