edgy Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 3 minutes ago, sjm said: 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual MY09 (carsales.com.au) Always looking at Carsales etc. and wondering if pricing is ever going to normalize (to the pre- Covid depreciation curve) Don't get me wrong, this looks a nice car, especially as not a lot of manual series 2 997 coupes were built. With 165,453 km's it's on the high side and whoever buys it, will either keep it in the shed and not put many more k's on it, or drive the thing and risk taking a bath in the future, with even higher mileage. Thinking 30% is pretty close to the mark, regarding over valued 911 listings. I agree with you on this ^^ and I am huge advocate of the 996/997 era cars... but at that price, I would be looking at 991's tomo, sjm and Joz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgerman Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 4 hours ago, LeeM said: Yes it has, and very well looked after (I know the owner) Looks interesting. Couldn't see any recent service history in the books however? Do you know who maintained it Lee? 23 minutes ago, edgy said: I agree with you on this ^^ and I am huge advocate of the 996/997 era cars... but at that price, I would be looking at 991's Agree Kurt, I have a friend in MEL who will soon be looking to sell his 991.1 Carrera S for less than this ask.... edgy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 25 minutes ago, edgy said: I agree with you on this ^^ and I am huge advocate of the 996/997 era cars... but at that price, I would be looking at 991's I had a go in a mates 997.2 manual yesterday (low kms, minter). It was nice, fast, handled, great a/c etc. I’m just not sure it was fun??? Felt a little too big to be really chuckable. That said, it was all low speed city driving. Holding final judgment until I give it a proper go. Ps. And why are they all such boring colours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWY Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 Took me 2 years to find a 997.2 manual to buy. When one listed on carsales I called and bought it that day without negotiating the price with the dealer (not a OPC). This was back in 2018 I think, and then I had to pay for shipping the car from another state. Anyways- I have driven the car extensively over the years, and I got to say compared to the 991 or 992 series it really feels it comes from a different era. For me, having driven many different 911's from the G series all the way to tracking 992's on Porsche drive days, the 997.2 is just the perfect gateway between the old and new. However at the price the good doctor is asking for that 2009, I would actually go backwards and buy a 996 or even a 997.1 for a sensible price if looking for a similar driving experience. Sadly, I do not think the price of manual 997.2 will ever correct to pre-covid levels. It may end up being a little like the price difference we see in 993 between manual and auto as the experience is just that different. Or maybe I am just blinded by what's in the garage. OBRUT, sjm and tomo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 14 minutes ago, OBRUT said: I had a go in a mates 997.2 manual yesterday (low kms, minter). It was nice, fast, handled, great a/c etc. I’m just not sure it was fun??? Felt a little too big to be really chuckable. That said, it was all low speed city driving. Holding final judgment until I give it a proper go. Ps. And why are they all such boring colours! I think the thing about this era of cars is, what makes them great road cars does mask their underlying character... my 997.1 C2 was a different car with the Öhlins in it vs stock suspension...that being said my exposure on this generation of cars has been GT3 & GT3RS, as for boring colours yes totally... as for chuckable inner city driving, boy do I have something for you my friend! 21 minutes ago, Burgerman said: Agree Kurt, I have a friend in MEL who will soon be looking to sell his 991.1 Carrera S for less than this ask.... Would you let me know when he is actively selling, I may have the old man looking at something of this nature soon. OBRUT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgerman Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 30 minutes ago, edgy said: I think the thing about this era of cars is, what makes them great road cars does mask their underlying character... my 997.1 C2 was a different car with the Öhlins in it vs stock suspension...that being said my exposure on this generation of cars has been GT3 & GT3RS, as for boring colours yes totally... as for chuckable inner city driving, boy do I have something for you my friend! Would you let me know when he is actively selling, I may have the old man looking at something of this nature soon. Ok mate, I believe he is ready now. Is boring black however, and PDK. Does that suit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 1 hour ago, Burgerman said: Looks interesting. Couldn't see any recent service history in the books however? Do you know who maintained it Lee? I don't mate. Will ask and get back to you asap Burgerman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLD Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 5 hours ago, LeeM said: Yes it has, and very well looked after (I know the owner) Owner is a great guy, and the car looks even better in the flesh! LeeM and OBRUT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 26 minutes ago, JLD said: Owner is a great guy, and the car looks even better in the flesh! Let’s hope we are all wrong and he gets the price he is looking for 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 2 hours ago, Burgerman said: Ok mate, I believe he is ready now. Is boring black however, and PDK. Does that suit? Shoot me details when you know more 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 2 hours ago, LeeM said: I don't mate. Will ask and get back to you asap Nearly 40000 ks and 4years might been a daily ? Burgerman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 3 hours ago, Burgerman said: Looks interesting. Couldn't see any recent service history in the books however? Do you know who maintained it Lee? Was maintained by Peter Brennan, now looked after by Matt Jones at Tec9 Burgerman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgerman Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 1 hour ago, edgy said: Shoot me details when you know more 😎 I'll put you in touch directly with the seller mate, will SMS you his contact details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 5 hours ago, edgy said: I agree with you on this ^^ and I am huge advocate of the 996/997 era cars... but at that price, I would be looking at 991's Here's an idea, buy a 997.1 C2S manual coupe in good condition with from 50,000 to 100,000 ks. Thinking a realistic buy in is around $90-110k. With selling mine recently that seems the price they are moving at. Drive and enjoy and if the engine goes pop, put in a Hartech/LN engineering or equivalent motor, maybe a 4.0L. Yes it will probably be 50 to 60k but in reality Your M97 will probably last as long as you keep it. For all the M97 faults, the noises it makes (induction and exhaust with a gundo hack) is superb. JWM and tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joz Posted 13October, 2023 Report Share Posted 13October, 2023 12 hours ago, LeeM said: Yes it has, and very well looked after (I know the owner) This car is in my neighborhood too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_booost Posted 14October, 2023 Report Share Posted 14October, 2023 18 hours ago, sjm said: Put in a Hartech/LN engineering or equivalent motor, maybe a 4.0L. Yes it will probably be 50 to 60k but it will be the best thing since sliced bread....... For all the M97 faults, the noises it makes (induction and exhaust with a gundo hack) is superb - imagine it was a 4.L...... Now I'm listening.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknine01 Posted 17October, 2023 Report Share Posted 17October, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 20:01, OBRUT said: Who wants to play bidding bingo? Was on CS at around 160 - my guess is CC bidding stops at 112 https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1994-porsche-911-993-carrera-18 No reserve, already at $125k tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 17October, 2023 Report Share Posted 17October, 2023 15 minutes ago, micknine01 said: No reserve, already at $125k Yeah, looks like i was miles off. No reserve is new, must have only been added today. micknine01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadsTas Posted 17October, 2023 Report Share Posted 17October, 2023 1 hour ago, micknine01 said: No reserve, already at $125k Went to have a look at it, says sold @ $134.5k micknine01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 17October, 2023 Report Share Posted 17October, 2023 6 minutes ago, TwoHeadsTas said: Went to have a look at it, says sold @ $134.5k @edgywins bingo. @on_booost second. Me last… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 17October, 2023 Report Share Posted 17October, 2023 2 minutes ago, OBRUT said: @edgywins bingo. @on_booost second. Me last… I was thinking $135k Inc BP ... oops! Good result for both parties I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 17October, 2023 Report Share Posted 17October, 2023 2 minutes ago, OBRUT said: @edgywins bingo. Expensive meat tray for that fella. OBRUT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 17October, 2023 Report Share Posted 17October, 2023 Just now, hugh said: Expensive meat tray for that fella. accurate hugh and OBRUT 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-S Posted 17October, 2023 Report Share Posted 17October, 2023 6 hours ago, TwoHeadsTas said: Went to have a look at it, says sold @ $134.5k Makes a fair few 993’s on CS look even more optimistic than it was when listed. OBRUT and tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian1 Posted 18October, 2023 Report Share Posted 18October, 2023 On 13/10/2023 at 12:03, Burgerman said: Agree Kurt, I have a friend in MEL who will soon be looking to sell his 991.1 Carrera S for less than this ask.... Hey mate, could you send me the details on this 991.1 S please, i am in Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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