symsy Posted 18September, 2015 Report Share Posted 18September, 2015 I cant see any shortage of cars in europe and the prices diffrences in many cases are not that significant , when you localise them in terms of taxes etc and consider the costs for example to ship between countries and then factor exchange rates there are some demands and false trends I feel in Aus.. The obvious diffrences is that we have in relative terms a good supply of some collectables per capitaQuite a few 993TT , A bunch of GT3's and various other air cooled as an example ..Check out the pistonheads classifieds for one example Remember we live on an island Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 18September, 2015 Report Share Posted 18September, 2015 It's not all madness....ebay auction on 3.2 converted LHD californian SC convertible with cup wheels and 964 bumpers : Current bid $22,100, looks like reserve will be around $27k.Cheapest running registered 911 in Aus?Seller has bought a 996!LInk http://www.ebay.com/itm/151808320716Bidding dried up at $24,900Worth that much in parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 18September, 2015 Report Share Posted 18September, 2015 $500 for the wheels, $85 for the flags, you might get there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonk Posted 18September, 2015 Report Share Posted 18September, 2015 SimonK or Simonr (I forget which) should be pleased seeing as his blue m491 was half as much money a few years back, and looks nicer! Talk about buying in the nick of time.I just can't get my head around the fact someone would consider paying that sort of money for my car. It's sad that greed and egos have infiltrated a market that was once just for enthusiasts. I'm definately lucky I got in when I did. _Tony, D-banger, clutch-monkey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f40-r Posted 18September, 2015 Report Share Posted 18September, 2015 Well the Yellow 911S was just picked up and taken out of my hands as the funds cleared last night.just to let everyone know, it went for $110,000...All I need now is the patience!received a deposit on the 3.2 so that should go early next week. turboT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl888 Posted 18September, 2015 Report Share Posted 18September, 2015 I just can't get my head around the fact someone would consider paying that sort of money for my car. It's sad that greed and egos have infiltrated a market that was once just for enthusiasts. I'm definately lucky I got in when I did. Yes you are lucky! But spare a thought for the original owner. Even allowing for a paltry 2.8% annual inflation rate, a M491 coupe if purchased new in 1989 for $200,000 comes in at a tad over $400,000 in today's money. Of course the effective inflation rate is in fact much higher. So it was these original cashed up enthusiasts in the first place that wore the cars massive initial inflation that allows you to enjoy your 911 today.The recent price rise in classic car values really annoys some people. However there are far greater forces at work than a few internet warriors thrashing away complaining about pricing. I think we all just have to consider it's the new world order. That's the law of the jungle. A car cannot be a rational financial purchase in any way, so I find it best not to apply any standard investment logic to a vehicle purchase. If you can move a car on and get your money back then you are one of the lucky few. There are still some seriously great value for money Porsche's out there however. Look at a what you can buy a decent 996 manual coupe for, or a 996 Turbo? It's frightening that these cars can be so cheap, especially in relation to models either side of them.Although not Porsche related (But an excellent example of how the market can shift) have a look at the history of Ferrari 250 GTO #3589. In 1964, after being thrashed around racetracks by Mike Parkes, Innes Ireland and Richie Ginther it was donated to a Texas School for the students to play with. It then sat outside for the next 16 years! What changed in that period of time for the car to be worth restoring? What was the psychology involved in the cars appreciation by a new breed of owner?I think part of it is that people tend to lust after material items they couldn't afford as an teen. As people enter their 40s and 50s with more cash and perhaps no mortgage; cheap money and a desire to re-capture their youth before the onset of type 2 diabetes and heard disease, they think they'll buy something that reminds them of these times.The other issue, those of us old enough to recall the heady 1980s (Like myself) even allowing for these mass produced cars, the production numbers are still not very high. With more buyers around than decent cars, it's easy to see why the prices are heading North. ByronBayChris, StevepGT3, BlitzKonig and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f40-r Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 Well said and spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerhead Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 Speaking of deals I found this and have been trying to contact the seller, no luck so far !! I wonder why ? http://australia.trovit.com/cars/index.php/cod.publish_your_ad_page/adId.121o1lJ1L1Y617/action.2# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 Well the Yellow 911S was just picked up and taken out of my hands as the funds cleared last night.just to let everyone know, it went for $110,000...All I need now is the patience!received a deposit on the 3.2 so that should go early next week.Wow, actual market feedback. Much obliged, f40-r. We're all waiting to see what you do with the cash. turboT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G5032 Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 Well the Yellow 911S was just picked up and taken out of my hands as the funds cleared last night.just to let everyone know, it went for $110,000...All I need now is the patience!received a deposit on the 3.2 so that should go early next week.wow!! Well done, time to revisit the insurance.....again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronBayChris Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 Speaking of deals I found this and have been trying to contact the seller, no luck so far !! I wonder why ? http://australia.trovit.com/cars/index.php/cod.publish_your_ad_page/adId.121o1lJ1L1Y617/action.2#coz it is scam. Third time around the blocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerhead Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 coz it is scam. Third time around the blocksYeh I assumed so. 20k as if, you would be the luckiest to score that for 20k. Why does some one even bother, very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D'Silva Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 (edited) 964 C2 Manual...nice interior colours.. dash pad looks to be full leather... http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1990/SSE-AD-3601997/?Cr=0 Edited 19September, 2015 by Mike D'Silva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 When will the madness stop!? Norm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 964 C2 Manual...nice interior colours.. dash pad looks to be full leather... http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1990/SSE-AD-3601997/?Cr=0Keen to see a picture of the "... & rear power windows" Mike D'Silva 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Man Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 Well this is a new way to do a deal. Talk about a seller's market.Could set a new level of pricing for 964s with 257kms."Price negotiable + only" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 Is that your mates 964 Fraz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 (edited) Well this is a new way to do a deal. Talk about a seller's market.Could set a new level of pricing for 964s with 257kms."Price negotiable + only"2 UNSOLD Red C2's do not a Summer maketh! Edited 19September, 2015 by KGB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 Whats a c2 manual with less than 53k worth then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 Whats a c2 manual with less than 53k worth then?what you just paid for it ;) michel and itsujack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 Yuk yuk yuk :) turboT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f40-r Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 And to think that nobody ever wanted a 964... It was considered as the ugly duckling, was it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 And to think that nobody ever wanted a 964... It was considered as the ugly duckling, was it not?probably why 996's are the next to watch. They used to be the ugliest of them all :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonk Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 probably why 996's are the next to watch. They used to be the ugliest of them all :)I once read "the 996 is like the ugliest Victoria Secret model" Claywong, turboT, AC78 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott930 Posted 19September, 2015 Report Share Posted 19September, 2015 probably why 996's are the next to watch. They used to be the ugliest of them all :)Used to be?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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