turboT Posted 25June, 2016 Report Share Posted 25June, 2016 Hello from London,the last few days flew by and I have been unable to post as promised. Am now at Heathrow on the way to Milan - had trouble getting out of the Sofitel in central London as the gay pride parade was on.........will post pictures of my other Porsche as promised when I get a chance, its on its way from Perth; I'm using CEVA - have used them before from Melbourne and Brisbane with no dramas. I will also introduce myself properly when I get back (that's 3 weeks form now though) on the right thread and post a bit of a background as well.Been reading the various posts on this thread about value etc.......my 2 cents worth is it is sometimes hard to accept new prices for things you remember being much cheaper in the past. I refused to buy a Ferrari 308 a while back at $40K (admittedly a few years ago) then bought my first one at double that and my pristine QV at more than triple that because by the time I decided I wanted one prices had moved. ALFA 105 coupes have more than doubled as well for good ones - many die hard ALFA guys will tell you people are crazy buying them at these prices. Alfa Montreals have more than tripled as another example. It looks like Porsche prices (in particular 911's) have been the same. Are all these worth these new prices? My answer is yes if people are paying. As an enthusiast/collector I'd prefer cheaper entry prices but it is what it is.Anyway my other comment is more an observation regarding my sale process for the Targa - some people go to a lot of trouble to email and tell you how wrong you are, how your car isn't worth the asking, how they knew the previous owner and he sold it for half the price asking now etc......... now I am car sales almost every day as a passion/hobby and some forums. I follow a few brands. I wouldn't dream about contacting a total stranger to tell them they are wrong/dreaming/lying etc I may contact a seller for more details or to express interest.....I would prefer to use my time enjoying my hobby .....I have been amazed this last week at human nature and reminded why I have preferred in the past to use dealers to move any car I want to sell (Cummins Classic Cars - Jeremy's a top bloke, Shannons or Frank) it can be stressful fielding these calls (I haven't actually fielded any, I'm getting them second hand but I do get the emails). Forum chatter is somewhat different I guess as it is a bunch of enthusiasts commenting generally (usually) and I can choose to avoid to listen if I so wish.I wanted a original early Targa and I got one - then I realised I didn't want one. If I overpaid that's my problem and I'm ok with that. For now all is good. If the cars doesn't sell at some point I will restore it either all the way or tidy it up a little and enjoy it.I was going to start chatting about 993 Turbos but I'm boarding soon - I remember CTS offering me on at $140k not that long ago......CheersEmmanuelOnce you've wasted a year of your life on PFA mate you'll realise it's basically entertainment and goading each other is all in jest. Don't take the haters that seriously. Most of them are 928 drivers (see what I did there) or SC owners that are pissed they missed the exact point in Nov 2015 when they could have offloaded their car and for $20k more got into a 996 GT3 . Many of us have CTS stories - could have bought half a dozen 993tt's for sub $200k early last year - looks like prices of those are dropping through.Anyway. You're in London. Go buy a couple of Porsches with those cheap pounds and give us another week of entertainment on the virtues of owning rusty cars symsy, LeeM, Pman and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELSPORTO Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 not dropping as fast as 930 prices ... symsy and SimonN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f40-r Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 The market in general is down, the only way for some of us is Porexit. scashin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 not dropping as fast as 930 prices ...strangely buoyant. CTS suggesting a 15% rise in the last three month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 Market is weak, abundance of stock for even gt3 of any generationSellers are unrealistic, buyers are even more so and only putting money down for a stellar deal, then comes the media with everything else to feed doom and gloom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 Nice 69E Targa http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-4116138?WT.seg_4=AutoAlert;PCAA&sdmvc=1&utm_campaign=bau&utm_medium=email&utm_source=transact&utm_content=autoalert&wt.z_driver=Email_SearchAlert?WT.seg_4=AutoAlert poli84, turboT and TrevMcRev 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MezgerMan Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 a few of the main wheelers like cts n duttons have shifted a few high price cars very recently. it seems the turnover is still there.They've also dropped their asking price across most of their stock. And turnover is limited, as you might expect at any museum. turboT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 They've also dropped their asking price across most of their stock. And turnover is limited, as you might expect at any museum.I wonder how the Gosford car lot is going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLD Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 Nice 69E Targa http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-4116138?WT.seg_4=AutoAlert;PCAA&sdmvc=1&utm_campaign=bau&utm_medium=email&utm_source=transact&utm_content=autoalert&wt.z_driver=Email_SearchAlert?WT.seg_4=AutoAlertthat's really nice... One thing I don't get with a car that's $120,000 is:'Overall the car is in very good condition with only a few very minor detail issues.'If I were selling this I'd fix these so I could advertise it as an excellent car with no issues . Then I'd feel really confident with an asking price of $120,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 I wonder how the Gosford car lot is going?I don't know but talking to someone today who advised that everything is for sale and the business model they are using involves turning over 20 cars a month and the "museum" label was just a way to ease the journey to gaining development approval for this venture.When you consider the owner's background all this sounds very plausible and explains the basic exhibition arrangements..... JWM and turboT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 Nice 69E Targa http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-4116138?WT.seg_4=AutoAlert;PCAA&sdmvc=1&utm_campaign=bau&utm_medium=email&utm_source=transact&utm_content=autoalert&wt.z_driver=Email_SearchAlert?WT.seg_4=AutoAlertpretty car, but did you check out the books? Straight out of a feature in Monocle magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MezgerMan Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 their prices are very high so even with a discount i'm sure the prices are still up there Indeed, comparison of 993TT prices shows by just how much. They might be particularly good examples with lower-than-average mileage but the premium is still around 30 %. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLD Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 Sorry, I had tohttp://www.porsche.com/microsite/718/australia.aspx we are on page 718 after all... scashin, symsy and KGB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 Once you've wasted a year of your life on PFA mate you'll realise it's basically entertainment and goading each other is all in jest. Don't take the haters that seriously. Most of them are 928 drivers (see what I did there) or SC owners As a one foot in the middle aged grave pom , you forgot to add "amateur hour trolling" and "kar-aoke" DIY methods, that won't leave your fingernails dirty or turtleneck snagged turboT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 As a one foot in the middle aged grave pom , you forgot to add "amateur hour trolling" and "kar-aoke" DIY methods, that won't leave your fingernails dirty or turtleneck snagged 12hrs? Has to be a record. You been out milking sheep or something ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 I will also introduce myself properly when I get back (that's 3 weeks form now though)With extra baited breath, we want international mystery man action - now! MezgerMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 Once you've wasted a year of your life on PFA mate you'll realise it's basically entertainment and goading each other is all in jest. Don't take the haters that seriously. Most of them are 928 drivers (see what I did there) or SC owners that are pissed they missed the exact point in Nov 2015 when they could have offloaded their car and for $20k more got into a 996 GT3 . Many of us have CTS stories - could have bought half a dozen 993tt's for sub $200k early last year - looks like prices of those are dropping through.Anyway. You're in London. Go buy a couple of Porsches with those cheap pounds and give us another week of entertainment on the virtues of owning rusty cars hey, I don't have a 928!And I didn't want a gt3! Pman, turboT and BlitzKonig 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 12hrs? Has to be a record. You been out milking sheep or something ?Sundays are for driving the Porsche with your favourite (human) girl. I heard someone say "get out & drive". turboT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 makes more now Is Jonof selling another car? http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/Porsche-928s-1982-Manual-Aust-Complianced-Guards-Red-/322167854308?nav=SEARCHI believe this is @928 Rally's car but I cannot find his thread for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 Once you've wasted a year of your life on PFA mate you'll realise it's basically entertainment and goading each other is all in jest. Don't take the haters that seriously. Most of them are 928 drivers (see what I did there) or SC owners that are pissed they missed the exact point in Nov 2015 when they could have offloaded their car and for $20k more got into a 996 GT3 . Many of us have CTS stories - could have bought half a dozen 993tt's for sub $200k early last year - looks like prices of those are dropping through.Anyway. You're in London. Go buy a couple of Porsches with those cheap pounds and give us another week of entertainment on the virtues of owning rusty cars Is your resolve to be the PFA number one poster waning turboT.... 928, you know you WANT one! turboT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 26June, 2016 Report Share Posted 26June, 2016 I believe this is @928 Rally's car but I cannot find his thread for it?That's at least a month of Sunday's right there. turboT and michel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 27June, 2016 Report Share Posted 27June, 2016 Not one of us tempted on the MFI GREEN TARGA Peril then…. EBAY didnt sell the puppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond911 Posted 27June, 2016 Report Share Posted 27June, 2016 anyone after a LHD "chick magnet"? http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/joondalup/cars-vans-utes/chick-magnet/1116894446 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 27June, 2016 Report Share Posted 27June, 2016 anyone after a LHD "chick magnet"? http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/joondalup/cars-vans-utes/chick-magnet/1116894446 This car has been bandied about for ages, every now and then pops up again, the market for LHD S4s would be quite small.... new ad targeting the lowest common denominator... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 27June, 2016 Report Share Posted 27June, 2016 Is your resolve to be the PFA number one poster waning turboT.... 928, you know you WANT one! finally ANF! Were you and tassie together on a Sunday drive together? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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