npvpositive Posted 3January, 2018 Report Share Posted 3January, 2018 Just for the record . . . state of the market, Jan 3rd 2018: symsy, micknine01 and Philbee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknine01 Posted 3January, 2018 Report Share Posted 3January, 2018 ^^ interesting how long that red one has been on the market for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Posted 3January, 2018 Report Share Posted 3January, 2018 Amazing that $270k = cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 3January, 2018 Report Share Posted 3January, 2018 Don't forget the hopeful $408000 one! https://www.drive.com.au/car-sales/buy-used-cars/sydney-nsw/porsche/911/turbo-awd/164723794?trackLink=usedCarResults11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingporsche Posted 3January, 2018 Report Share Posted 3January, 2018 10 hours ago, Troubleshooter said: Don't forget the hopeful $408000 one! https://www.drive.com.au/car-sales/buy-used-cars/sydney-nsw/porsche/911/turbo-awd/164723794?trackLink=usedCarResults11 This is the same car as the $389k car at the top of the list - same colour, year & mileage; just a more optimistic price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 4January, 2018 Report Share Posted 4January, 2018 Ahh so it is, my bad. $408 is the drive away price, devil always in the details symsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 4January, 2018 Report Share Posted 4January, 2018 Anyone seriously wanna store and hold the 270 car 50/50 ? Could tyre kick it a little to? Whats the punter with their hands outta their pockets say ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknine01 Posted 5January, 2018 Report Share Posted 5January, 2018 On 04/01/2018 at 2:30 PM, symsy said: Anyone seriously wanna store and hold the 270 car 50/50 ? Could tyre kick it a little to? Whats the punter with their hands outta their pockets say ? Hold fire symsy, just as I suspected, the 993tt market is still all smoke and mirrors https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-911-1996/SSE-AD-3853723 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 5January, 2018 Report Share Posted 5January, 2018 1 hour ago, 901er said: Hold fire symsy, just as I suspected, the 993tt market is still all smoke and mirrors https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-911-1996/SSE-AD-3853723 who said I would pay retail .. I gave up that religion a long time ago.. I think personally they are 250 cars .. if SC's are what they are .. 930s etc .. Really for driveability , performance etc etc .. they are a real sweet spot You have to be into the nostalga to own a lot of the old cars in the 200k arena or an out and out hardcore nut and GT3 freak.. I gotta white one .. you wait Magnus will buy one soon , once hes flogged off most of his 70-80s cars and then the world will change .. A Gunter-Walker 450 will hit the market .. micknine01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOKA Posted 5January, 2018 Report Share Posted 5January, 2018 1 hour ago, 901er said: Hold fire symsy, just as I suspected, the 993tt market is still all smoke and mirrors https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-911-1996/SSE-AD-3853723 Geese, for the K's it would seem old mate Jopin has spent far too much time in the drivers seat, but not actually driving the bloody thing. Lovely car.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 5January, 2018 Report Share Posted 5January, 2018 1 hour ago, 901er said: Hold fire symsy, just as I suspected, the 993tt market is still all smoke and mirrors https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-911-1996/SSE-AD-3853723 "on hold" don't mean sold - a strategy to prompt a nearly there buyer to move on it, or a near genuine lurker to make a call micknine01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 5January, 2018 Report Share Posted 5January, 2018 39 minutes ago, symsy said: who said I would pay retail .. I gave up that religion a long time ago.. I think personally they are 250 cars .. if SC's are what they are .. 930s etc .. Beats me why most enthusiasts usually buy at retail, if it's just "that special one" well fair enough but if you have one or two or ten of em you don't "just have to have it" . There's always another one around the corner - patience grasshopper. I agree on the 250 as the median for 993tt "If SC's are what they are" -- imo they aren't Symsy. It's no mirrors and all smoke, gotta be on the smoke to pay those SC prices! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Posted 5January, 2018 Report Share Posted 5January, 2018 9 hours ago, symsy said: who said I would pay retail .. I gave up that religion a long time ago.. I think personally they are 250 cars .. if SC's are what they are .. 930s etc .. Really for driveability , performance etc etc .. they are a real sweet spot You have to be into the nostalga to own a lot of the old cars in the 200k arena or an out and out hardcore nut and GT3 freak.. I gotta white one .. you wait Magnus will buy one soon , once hes flogged off most of his 70-80s cars and then the world will change .. A Gunter-Walker 450 will hit the market .. I think Magnus bought a 996 GT2 recently ......not much happened on that front. Influence is diminishing.....? symsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 6January, 2018 Report Share Posted 6January, 2018 15 hours ago, Troubleshooter said: "If SC's are what they are" -- imo they aren't Symsy. It's no mirrors and all smoke, gotta be on the smoke to pay those SC prices! What SC prices are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 6January, 2018 Report Share Posted 6January, 2018 17 hours ago, DJM said: I think Magnus bought a 996 GT2 recently ......not much happened on that front. Influence is diminishing.....? I think his focus has shifted to Hotwheels cars and product placement these days......yawn DJM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 6January, 2018 Report Share Posted 6January, 2018 The way overpriced SC's which are half that are on the market and to a lesser degree the quarter that are overpriced and lastly the eighth that are about $10,000 overpriced for what they are. Imo that leaves 4 or 5 that are priced about right for what they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 6January, 2018 Report Share Posted 6January, 2018 4 hours ago, Troubleshooter said: The way overpriced SC's which are half that are on the market and to a lesser degree the quarter that are overpriced and lastly the eight that are about $10,000 overpriced for what they are. Imo that leaves 4 or 5 that are priced about right for what they are If you are referring to Carsales I can see a range from 65-150k. I believe good cars would be fair buying at around 80-90k, over 100k and your options start to open further. In terms of current day classic Porsche ownership I'd say there is some value there, that is if you are looking for a long term car to enjoy and not sell in the short term. An extra 10k or so to get a "good" car can be money well spent, especially over a 5-10 year period. I would take a 80-90k SC over a 250k 993TT any day.....................my 1 cents worth anyway.............. 911barber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 6January, 2018 Report Share Posted 6January, 2018 25 minutes ago, hugh said: I would take a 80-90k SC over a 250k 993TT any day.....................my 1 cents worth anyway.............. I hope you have your front door locked ..Im sending the TT Tarmac Terrorists crew round your gaff to get ya Red card hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 6January, 2018 Report Share Posted 6January, 2018 2 hours ago, symsy said: I hope you have your front door locked ..Im sending the TT Tarmac Terrorists crew round your gaff to get ya Red card That is maybe what I need, someone to scare the shite out of me in a 993TT to make me realise the error of my statement ! I have no doubt they are amazing cars, its just another example of AC cars on the pricing spectrum, I didn't quite articulate that well but hopefully you can give me the benefit of the doubt. (please don't hurt me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Posted 6January, 2018 Report Share Posted 6January, 2018 Funny to look back to the start of this thread - shock and horror at $195k ask when low to mid 100s was the "right" price for a 993TT. My havent things changed in 4.5 years, the ask is now double and the "right" price is also double. Should have bought half a dozen! Troubleshooter and symsy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelrik911 Posted 6January, 2018 Report Share Posted 6January, 2018 18 hours ago, Ozvino said: I think his focus has shifted to Hotwheels cars and product placement these days......yawn Yes - I think, naturally enough, Magnus has changed since his wife's suicide. The era of modified/hotted-up air cooled 911's is gradually fading & soon nobody will dare to race their precious expensive 911 SCs. Hmmm maybe cheap & cheerful Boxrods are the substitute?? bear924, DJM and symsy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 7January, 2018 Report Share Posted 7January, 2018 17 hours ago, hugh said: If you are referring to Carsales I can see a range from 65-150k. I believe good cars would be fair buying at around 80-90k, over 100k and your options start to open further. In terms of current day classic Porsche ownership I'd say there is some value there, that is if you are looking for a long term car to enjoy and not sell in the short term. An extra 10k or so to get a "good" car can be money well spent, especially over a 5-10 year period. I would take a 80-90k SC over a 250k 993TT any day.....................my 1 cents worth anyway.............. I pretty much agree with all that Hugh and I'm not basing it solely on carsales. I actually think that atm, there's some relatively better value at more realistic prices in some of the Carrera 3.2's on the market. On your last sentence though, it's apples and apples if you want a minimum outlay but it's apples and oranges if you're wanting an icon. Same comparison could be made either way by saying I would take a mid/high 30's Cayman or Coxster over 6.1 GT3 CS ... 4 hours ago, Zelrik911 said: The era of modified/hotted-up air cooled 911's is gradually fading & soon nobody will dare to race their precious expensive 911 SCs. Hmmm maybe cheap & cheerful Boxrods are the substitute?? Hell will freeze over before your 1st sentence (or the next 2 year doubling of the prices which isn't anytime in the next decade). The Boxrods? Not the overall substitute but you're onto something, a very enjoyable second, ask me how I know 5 hours ago, DJM said: Funny to look back to the start of this thread - shock and horror at $195k ask when low to mid 100s was the "right" price for a 993TT. My havent things changed in 4.5 years, the ask is now double and the "right" price is also double. Should have bought half a dozen! When I brought my TT in 2013 there were 4 sitting on carsales for around 3 or 5 months at advertised $120's and all around 100klms, and one at $150 with 50klms -- Same doubling of dollars applied to all aircooled generally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknine01 Posted 7January, 2018 Report Share Posted 7January, 2018 1 hour ago, Troubleshooter said: When I brought my TT in 2013 there were 4 sitting on carsales for around 3 or 5 months at advertised $120's and all around 100klms, and one at $150 with 50klms -- Which TT did you buy? That's about the time I was on the hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 7January, 2018 Report Share Posted 7January, 2018 Black one in Vic. In fact iirc there were 3 black and the $150k one was blue micknine01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 7January, 2018 Report Share Posted 7January, 2018 5 hours ago, Troubleshooter said: but it's apples and oranges if you're wanting an icon. Same comparison could be made either way by saying I would take a mid/high 30's Cayman or Coxster over 6.1 GT3 CS ... I'd say that's a pretty far stretch. Cant agree with you on that one sorry.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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