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I just can’t help myself to modify so had to have one with some bits on it, and eventually worked out I wasn’t driving the effing thing as much as I should’ve. If you can stay in that zone of being happy with the compromises that a road car brings to the track, power to you! Saves a lot of headaches wondering exactly what you should be doing with your pride and joy.

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12 hours ago, GRK930 said:

Does this mean your gt3 is spoken for?

No, not quite yet...............

36 minutes ago, edgy said:

Who's asking..... 

Some ice junkie on the corner, says he knows a guy. Just an attempt to get the thread back on track! :lol:

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On 3/12/2018 at 12:05 PM, Peter John said:

https://petrolicious.com/films/one-car-to-do-it-all-jack-olsen-s-911

@hugh one of my favs just from the guy driving to, on, and back again. Great workshop feature too! 

The old days before race tracks, was drive to, test and tune, stay the night and drive home. So I’ve heard anyway!

I can vouch for Jack's car on the track. It is a weapon, but it was a LONG way from a comfortable road car. After a going for an enthusiastic drive in @symsy's 997CS, I am amazed at how comfortable it is. Even travelling very fast on very crappy roads. Definitely the best of both worlds in my opinion.

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Must be a lot to do with the year of car too with chassis and all. But i do recall seeing a select few gurus in the muscle car scene driving from Dandenong in traffic on a friday night, blasting below 10 second quarter miles all night long and driving home via the pizza and coffee shop and thinking how awesome! Reliability plus!

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The white car looks familiar , was it the one with the rebuild very early on ? Or does someone know it .. I have the Vin somewhere.

I still cant fathom why some rebuilt cars get a bad rap.. and before I dig a hole here for some seller , im saying this generically rather than specific about this car..

I do notice the  .1s with the mixed histories also havent sold, thats all the cars under 200k.

I guess it begs to ask the question , when do these things become unprovinanced track bitches or hotrods.. mighty fine hotrods..I might add.  They  also do all still have the capacity to be a cars and coffee machines and SMT hero car after all. Unlike a car that needs to be trailered

Whats the view on prices , If a track car hits a 100k low , whats the low 996 or 997 even, that you just dont care about paperworks..and just focus on general presentation, straightness and mechanical status?

If there is a car at 165k  7 .1  and 145k 996.1  and people are building AC hotrods at values 120-150k seems crazy.. I doubt you could get anywhere near porsche motorsport engineering with any home build of bolt on bits.. let alone speed and handling.

32 minutes ago, StevepGT3 said:

Does have some appeal in red ..

1 hour ago, 901er said:

How much would you lads pay for a .2 over a .1 ?  Im loving my .1 and wonder if a jump to a .2 make sense for my keeper..

50 minutes ago, spiller said:

Gorgeous. 

You really need one ;)

 

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I would say on a track car, depends on providence - who has owned it and if it has won anything. Then registered or not.

i would also be interested to see people’s thoughts.

in particular those 14 996 GT3 CS that were Aus delivered and then converted to track but still have compliance plate 

@symsy on your 997.1 vs 2 there is an interesting comparison of the  RS versions from 996 to 997 1 & 2 of the same cars - .1 was the winner as alrounder

You would need to drive both back to back and decide really.

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1 hour ago, symsy said:

The white car looks familiar , was it the one with the rebuild very early on ? Or does someone know it .. I have the Vin somewhere.

I still cant fathom why some rebuilt cars get a bad rap.. and before I dig a hole here for some seller , im saying this generically rather than specific about this car..

I do notice the  .1s with the mixed histories also havent sold, thats all the cars under 200k.

I guess it begs to ask the question , when do these things become unprovinanced track bitches or hotrods.. mighty fine hotrods..I might add.  They  also do all still have the capacity to be a cars and coffee machines and SMT hero car after all. Unlike a car that needs to be trailered

Whats the view on prices , If a track car hits a 100k low , whats the low 996 or 997 even, that you just dont care about paperworks..and just focus on general presentation, straightness and mechanical status?

If there is a car at 165k  7 .1  and 145k 996.1  and people are building AC hotrods at values 120-150k seems crazy.. I doubt you could get anywhere near porsche motorsport engineering with any home build of bolt on bits.. let alone speed and handling.

Does have some appeal in red ..

How much would you lads pay for a .2 over a .1 ?  Im loving my .1 and wonder if a jump to a .2 make sense for my keeper..

You really need one ;)

 

@symsy I am working on it. It won’t have rego plates though...

re: cars with rebuilt engines, I agree, it’s silly, but unfortunately for those cars it’s what the market dictates. Especially worse if the ecu has a big overrev to go with the engine rebuild. Can’t ever get rid of that. Probably won’t matter as much in 20 years though.

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On 17/03/2018 at 5:22 PM, symsy said:

The white car looks familiar , was it the one with the rebuild very early on ? Or does someone know it .. I have the Vin somewhere.

I still cant fathom why some rebuilt cars get a bad rap.. and before I dig a hole here for some seller , im saying this generically rather than specific about this car..

I do notice the  .1s with the mixed histories also havent sold, thats all the cars under 200k.

I guess it begs to ask the question , when do these things become unprovinanced track bitches or hotrods.. mighty fine hotrods..I might add.  They  also do all still have the capacity to be a cars and coffee machines and SMT hero car after all. Unlike a car that needs to be trailered

Whats the view on prices , If a track car hits a 100k low , whats the low 996 or 997 even, that you just dont care about paperworks..and just focus on general presentation, straightness and mechanical status?

If there is a car at 165k  7 .1  and 145k 996.1  and people are building AC hotrods at values 120-150k seems crazy.. I doubt you could get anywhere near porsche motorsport engineering with any home build of bolt on bits.. let alone speed and handling.

Does have some appeal in red ..

How much would you lads pay for a .2 over a .1 ?  Im loving my .1 and wonder if a jump to a .2 make sense for my keeper..

You really need one ;)

 

The white 997.2 GT3  is Rex Broadbent's car I don't know Rex other than to say hello and that he has been around Porsche and motor racing for a long time. In fact he was at Dak Dak late last year with his pale blue 993 GT2. I would read his add as genuine and upfront. I believe this car would be great buying at the advertised price (do your own DD)

Re your question of what to pay for a 7.2 over a .1; knowing you @symsy the perfect answer would be as little as possible, however talking from my experience when looking for my 997GT3CS early on I was very tempted by the pricing of the .1 as it does seem to fluctuate more so than the .2 and its essentially the same looking car.

My heart however was always with the .2 !!!  Those centre lock wheels are stunning and shout track car heritage!, the updated interior, much needed and makes for a great space to be in! The updated body kit - works better and looks better (to me), The front lift system this is essential in my mind it just makes the car function as close to a normal road car as a performance car could expect to. - LED lights better in both form and function - Front suspension upgrades, "Rohrl says the new front suspension not only makes it easier for him enjoy it, but more likely it'll give its best to an average driver" (me) and Then the kicker for me was the desirability of the last of the Mezger GT3 engines in its 3.8L capacity, all this in the last of the small footprint 911's with hydraulic steering. 

Are they faster or better cars than a point 1, probably marginally, not that i'm qualified as i'm no track rat merely a super enthusiast that loves driving Porsche's in a spirited fashion.

I do sincerely believe that the 997.2 GT3CS will be a car that maintains its value very well for the above reasons and will increase in value over time. 

Example Pricing for quality well optioned cars

997.1 GT3CS     -    $210K

997.1GT3RS     -    $ 70% premium over 997.1GT3CS

997.2 GT3CS    -    $ 20% (42K premium) over 997.1GT3CS  - 2200 997.2 GT3CS produced World wide

997.2GT3RS     -    $ 75% (190K premium) over 997.2GT3CS - 1600 997.2GT3RS produced World wide

 

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46 minutes ago, Scott SS964 said:

The white 997.2 GT3  is Rex Broadbent's car I don't know Rex other than to say hello and that he has been around Porsche and motor racing for a long time. In fact he was at Dak Dak late last year with his pale blue 993 GT2. I would read his add as genuine and upfront. I believe this car would be great buying at the advertised price (do your own DD)

Looks like the dude can steer and obviously would on face value know the value of maintaining his cars , motorsport people normally go through their cars end to end as nobody likes to go to the track for the weekend and get sent home for a silly breakdown.. did that after a 1000km tow , I was not a happy chappy, 35 mins driving 1000km from home with the Escort in a box :(

I just gotta find someone to do a swap perhaps..

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40 minutes ago, edgy said:

Maybe @hugh or @symsy know it... 

Hell, maybe I will part with my Lapis for the right $$$ so I can join the Cup brigade?? :lol: 

 

You know you want to :D. 

On 10/03/2018 at 2:38 PM, hugh said:

 

Pretty sure the car had a history and the price was somewhat reflective of it. 

Did some digging back a few pages...so, whats the story @hugh? PM if you like.

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