tazzieman Posted 23August, 2015 Report Share Posted 23August, 2015 I was amused to discover a few years back that "sunroof delete" was a desirable "option".Never been one for sunroofs anyway . So have a rare colour , sunroof delete 911 with black interior & tartan inserts.It was being heavily overlooked on the market when I rescued it! Ah , fashions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twood Posted 23August, 2015 Report Share Posted 23August, 2015 To me the discussion about whether a car has, or does not have, a sunroof or about the colour of a car is irrelevant when used in the context of "to buy or not buy a particular car".If you buying a new car then it is a different matter. You will make the decisions on colour and accessories on your preference at the time. Buying a second hand (used, pre owned) the decisions has already been made.Any decision I have made when deciding to buy a particular car has been based on the car as a whole unit. The colour, sunroof. interior colour are very minor factors in my final decision..I have owned 3 Porsches over a 20 year period-2 with sunroofs and 1 without. Personally, and for a variety of reasons. I would prefer a Porsche without a sunroof. But then I would never buy a Targa or a Cabriolet either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 23August, 2015 Report Share Posted 23August, 2015 Americans also sneer at window tint.Ah, so they do have at least one redeeming feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au-yt Posted 23August, 2015 Report Share Posted 23August, 2015 (edited) If I can jump in with buy or not buy, whats peoples thoughts 964 Tiptronics converted to Manuals.I am aware that it is an enthusiast will always want an original manual, which appears to be quite rare.Is the Value added only to that of the cost of the conversion? or is there an extra value to the car.The Car I am thinking of is an a via South Africa import. Edited 23August, 2015 by au-yt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 24August, 2015 Report Share Posted 24August, 2015 To me the discussion about whether a car has, or does not have, a sunroof or about the colour of a car is irrelevant when used in the context of "to buy or not buy a particular car".If you buying a new car then it is a different matter. You will make the decisions on colour and accessories on your preference at the time. Buying a second hand (used, pre owned) the decisions has already been made.Any decision I have made when deciding to buy a particular car has been based on the car as a whole unit. The colour, sunroof. interior colour are very minor factors in my final decision..I have owned 3 Porsches over a 20 year period-2 with sunroofs and 1 without. Personally, and for a variety of reasons. I would prefer a Porsche without a sunroof. But then I would never buy a Targa or a Cabriolet either. What about those drivers with super-human skills who can feel the higher polar moment of inertia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsujack Posted 24August, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 24August, 2015 If I can jump in with buy or not buy, whats peoples thoughts 964 Tiptronics converted to Manuals.I am aware that it is an enthusiast will always want an original manual, which appears to be quite rare.Is the Value added only to that of the cost of the conversion? or is there an extra value to the car.The Car I am thinking of is an a via South Africa import.It's not a cheap or straightforward exercise. There are several threads if you search google and rennlist. The shop I use have done one and not at all keen to do it again...Prior to recent price increases (last couple years) it was advisable to use the approx. $20k (being the rough cost if you're paying someone to do the conversion) and just buy a genuine manual as the price differences between manuals and tips were in this ballpark (assuming you were patient and acted quickly when a manual surfaced). Now however the value gap between the two seems to have a grown so a conversion might be worth revisiting. Of course it will always be a converted car and whilst not as significant as LHD-RHD swaps, in P-car land any conversion will hurt the value. My advice, if you can afford (and find one) buy a genuine manual. If you can't, pick up a tip and just drive it until you can afford the conversion, or a trade up to a manual. And who knows, just maybe in that time you'll fall for changing gears with your thumbs...(Also, if converting, keep all original parts with the car, unless you need to flog them to pay for some new bits) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 24August, 2015 Report Share Posted 24August, 2015 If I can jump in with buy or not buy, whats peoples thoughts 964 Tiptronics converted to Manuals.I am aware that it is an enthusiast will always want an original manual, which appears to be quite rare.Is the Value added only to that of the cost of the conversion? or is there an extra value to the car.The Car I am thinking of is an a via South Africa import.I think Mike looked into this for his Tipy, But it was a expensive option i seem to remember, Mike might chime in Mike D'Silva 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsujack Posted 24August, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 24August, 2015 What about those drivers with super-human skills who can feel the higher polar moment of inertia? That certainly doesn't apply to me... however... currently owning one with and one without there are several advantages to owning a "sunroof delete" car:I am fairly tall when seated and the extra headroom without the sunroof is a big plus, especially with a helmet onNo fear of rustNo fear of leaksOne less item to fail and eat your walletThe knowledge that your centre of gravity is that crucial amount lowerBut as an architect in the city an opening roof sure makes gawking up at stuff easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 24August, 2015 Report Share Posted 24August, 2015 (edited) I am fairly tall when seated and the extra headroom without the sunroof is a big plus, especially with a helmet onI suffer this in the 928, but it's not a problem 964. 187cm, unexcited. Edited 24August, 2015 by KGB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D'Silva Posted 29August, 2015 Report Share Posted 29August, 2015 I think Mike looked into this for his Tipy, But it was a expensive option i seem to remember, Mike might chime in Only just saw this...I asked a couple of places.. was told it was too hard..Autohaus were the only place I found who had done it, and they did not want to do it again due to the complexity and cost. Although we never even got as far as discussing actual dollar values.I could not find ANY info online from anyone who had done the conversion. but there are lots of threads of people who have opinions on the cost.In the end, I drove the tip as a tip and if it had 5 ratios instead of 4, it would have been awesome. In the end, I found a C2 manual... the gearing seems quite tall in that too.. but it is still a little more fun than the tip.But I liked the tip and would definately have another. In the real world, it was probably just as quick as the manual. Peter M and Fraz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 30August, 2015 Report Share Posted 30August, 2015 New data point for the 964 fanciers.The whisper is that Duttons have just sold one of the six Aussie delivered 964 Speedsters for AU$400k. 14 made in RHD, with only 12 of those thought to be still on the road. michel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D'Silva Posted 30August, 2015 Report Share Posted 30August, 2015 jesus h christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 30August, 2015 Report Share Posted 30August, 2015 jesus h christ.On the hunt for a Speedster now Mike ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 30August, 2015 Report Share Posted 30August, 2015 Reading "911 & Porsche World" recently to see that Turbos are now getting 300000 GBP with S models over 500000 GBP in the UK.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 31August, 2015 Report Share Posted 31August, 2015 I dislike sunroofs. (sunrooves?)I have one car with a sunroof. Guess which car has had two wet floors from blocked sunroof drain tubes? The drain tubes are small and must be constantly cleaned in case dirt blocks them.It's a glass roof, and if you open the internal blind, the wind noise is significantly higher.In the QLD summer a glass roof with the blind open will bake your head and having the roof open with fry your head.It also has a finicky fault where the little wind deflector doesn't always pop down properly, and the safety feature detects this and re-opens it. Leading ti a situation where it takes 10 attempts to close it.The only redeeming feature is when you load bikes on the racks you can keep an eye on them through the glass roof.In a previous car I also discovered the shortcomings of an open roof - you must not make remarks about passing pedestrians to your passenger ! tazzieman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsujack Posted 31August, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 31August, 2015 New data point for the 964 fanciers.The whisper is that Duttons have just sold one of the six Aussie delivered 964 Speedsters for AU$400k. 14 made in RHD, with only 12 of those thought to be still on the road.Holy F$%*! I thought they only recently cracked the $250k mark...Someone please sell me a time machine... This was for sale in 2009, I remember at the time thinking it was pricey... ByronBayChris and Mike D'Silva 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS911 Posted 31August, 2015 Report Share Posted 31August, 2015 I'd say so... if this latest one is anything to go by:1989 C4, 107km, $140k, Rare colour, Top Conditionhttp://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1989/SSE-AD-3334333/ No longer on Carsales. Can anyone confirm it sold at or around asking price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 31August, 2015 Report Share Posted 31August, 2015 They are a cracking drive, though I doubt the red one will be getting out much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D'Silva Posted 31August, 2015 Report Share Posted 31August, 2015 No longer on Carsales. Can anyone confirm it sold at or around asking price?dunno.. the advert didnt have a phone number.. only email address.. I'd never considered doing that before.. something to consider I guess. DS911 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claywong Posted 31August, 2015 Report Share Posted 31August, 2015 When did Duttons get that speedster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 31August, 2015 Report Share Posted 31August, 2015 Not sure. I don't think they publicly advertised it. I heard about it post-sale from a mate who knows I have one (mine is white/white/white).It might have been the one in the Lindsay Fox collection. Claywong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 2September, 2015 Report Share Posted 2September, 2015 (edited) I'd love a 964 Cab and happy for it be a Tip and prefer a C2 and really a Targa 964 would be the bees kneesI wonder what they'll go for when they hit the market again... maybe sellers waiting for the summer sun to come out? Hasn't been any for a while now.. last one had a dodgy roof in black for $39k and the silver one before it $32k and was for sale for months! Has anyone seen this Sydney 964 Targa? Its an unusual color for sure. SpecsLocation: Sydney, AustraliaUSA/ROW: ROWYear: 1992Colour: Talbot YellowProduction Date: 10/91VIN: WP0ZZZ96ZNS430179Picture Of Build Specs: NA Edited 2September, 2015 by amanda added pic asgraham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asgraham Posted 2September, 2015 Report Share Posted 2September, 2015 I'd love a 964 Cab and happy for it be a Tip and prefer a C2 I wonder what they'll go for when they hit the market again... maybe sellers waiting for the summer sun to come out? Hasn't been any for a while now.. last one had a dodgy roof in black for $39k and the silver one before it $32k and was for sale for months!Would you consider a manual C4 Cab instead Amanda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 2September, 2015 Report Share Posted 2September, 2015 Would you consider a manual C4 Cab instead Amanda?Next Jan or Feb - yes I would consider it. I need to make sure I'm permanent at work and also gives me time to save a bunch more $$$ so not ready now. Even if the most amazing car ever came on the market, I would walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asgraham Posted 2September, 2015 Report Share Posted 2September, 2015 Next Jan or Feb - yes I would consider it. I need to make sure I'm permanent at work and also gives me time to save a bunch more $$$ so not ready now. Even if the most amazing car ever came on the market, I would walk away.No worries Amanda, if I do decide to sell I will be starting a new thread.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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