Jason E Posted 27April, 2023 Report Share Posted 27April, 2023 10 minutes ago, JLD said: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1988-porsche-944-manual/SSE-AD-14337789/?Cr=0>s=SSE-AD-14337789>sSaleId=SSE-AD-14337789>sViewType=showcase&rankingType=showcase Was pretty interested in this as it popped up on my radar, but seller has neglected to mention it's a converted LHD car surley only a minor matter to omit 😎............. He had this advertised on facebook for a much higher price but got a lot of adverse commentary re the LHD conversion, seems he though it better just not to mention it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLD Posted 27April, 2023 Report Share Posted 27April, 2023 1 minute ago, Jason E said: surley only a minor matter to omit 😎............. He had this advertised on facebook for a much higher price but got a lot of adverse commentary re the LHD conversion, seems he though it better just not to mention it. I think that's pretty dodgy. Makes me wonder what else he's hiding so didn't go any further. Seller thinks it's not a problem to omit Jason E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port 911 Posted 27April, 2023 Author Report Share Posted 27April, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jason E said: surley only a minor matter to omit 😎............. He had this advertised on facebook for a much higher price but got a lot of adverse commentary re the LHD conversion, seems he though it better just not to mention it. Yep , spotted it was an import straight away. Rear bumpers first etc etc SteveF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason E Posted 27April, 2023 Report Share Posted 27April, 2023 2 minutes ago, Port 911 said: Yep , spotted it was an import straight away. Rear bumpers first etc etc How's the new Cayman going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port 911 Posted 27April, 2023 Author Report Share Posted 27April, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jason E said: How's the new Cayman going? You don't want to know, not enough room on the page, lets just say bloody awesome. Jason E, LeeM and Fishcop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason E Posted 27April, 2023 Report Share Posted 27April, 2023 3 minutes ago, Port 911 said: You don't want to know, not enough room on the page, lets just say bloody awesome. outstanding Port 911 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAC911 Posted 27April, 2023 Report Share Posted 27April, 2023 On 13/02/2023 at 23:57, OzJustin said: The market is so hard to follow these days. Agree the cars sitting on Carsales are in no way a reflection of sold prices. We need a database of sold prices so we can properly track the used car market. My thinking is good S2's are low $30s and Turbos maybe $50s, but obviously depends on year, spec, condition, mileage, service history etc etc. The only way you'll ever get an accurate snapshot though is if buyers willingly and honestly share their buy prices. Advertised prices will never reflect the actual sale price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzJustin Posted 29April, 2023 Report Share Posted 29April, 2023 On 27/04/2023 at 19:41, NAC911 said: The only way you'll ever get an accurate snapshot though is if buyers willingly and honestly share their buy prices. Advertised prices will never reflect the actual sale price. This is true. It seems to be a real gap in Australian data. Other countries have very sophisticated market monitoring tools to track sold prices etc. Surely some intelligent app creator can source raw data from the State transport offices or similar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAC911 Posted 29April, 2023 Report Share Posted 29April, 2023 15 minutes ago, OzJustin said: This is true. It seems to be a real gap in Australian data. Other countries have very sophisticated market monitoring tools to track sold prices etc. Surely some intelligent app creator can source raw data from the State transport offices or similar... Without a willing seller/buyer to share honest details im not sure other countries data is any more accurate than ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XLR8 Posted 15May, 2023 Report Share Posted 15May, 2023 Prices falling. Turbos back under $40k. Early manual NAs back around $20k. I suspect the next 6-12 months are a good time to be looking to buy ... OzJustin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergerac Posted 15May, 2023 Report Share Posted 15May, 2023 Only turbos I've seen under 40 are a LHD import and a tarmac car that isn't able to be registered, not sure that's a good indication of the market. If anything the asking prices on carsales have gone up. Not many cars moving though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 16May, 2023 Report Share Posted 16May, 2023 5 hours ago, bergerac said: If anything the asking prices on carsales have gone up. Not many cars moving though. I don't follow 944s but a common pattern I've noticed lately on a few cars is the owners are shifting the price down to something sensible but in this market, still not selling... Instead of lowering a little bit more, they decide to crank the price back up ... 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XLR8 Posted 19May, 2023 Report Share Posted 19May, 2023 On 16/05/2023 at 15:48, JWM said: Instead of lowering a little bit more, they decide to crank the price back up ... 😂 I have noticed this too. I think they feel they'll be able to offer a greater "discount" in negotiation, but the truth is that no-one will bother to come and view the car if it's a silly price to start with. On 16/05/2023 at 09:58, bergerac said: Only turbos I've seen under 40 are a LHD import and a tarmac car that isn't able to be registered, not sure that's a good indication of the market. I did see a RHD road Turbo that looked "ok" but it did not last long at just under $40k. I think I agree, a sub $40k Turbo won't be a great/desireable car, but 12-18 months ago they were all asking $50-70k for similar stuff. What I do see is that 1) Autos are like tattoos - might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but impossible to get rid of, 2) the prices of better cars seem to be dropping, and 3) there is still plenty of people who think an average (at best) early NA car is worth $30k+ (for months on end). JWM and OzJustin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 28July, 2023 Report Share Posted 28July, 2023 There are two nice looking low mileage Aust S2 coupe's on carsales at the moment, both asking mid $50k https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1990-porsche-944-s2-manual/SSE-AD-13257219/?Cr=4 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1990-porsche-944-s2-manual/SSE-AD-12591296/?Cr=5 Garage queen of hearts still sitting due to price https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1989-porsche-944-s2-manual/OAG-AD-21943652/?Cr=6 tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 28July, 2023 Report Share Posted 28July, 2023 A member here has looked at the first two cars and passed on them, so they might not be all they seem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewM Posted 28July, 2023 Report Share Posted 28July, 2023 On 28/04/2023 at 19:36, NAC911 said: Without a willing seller/buyer to share honest details im not sure other countries data is any more accurate than ours. Does anyone know if there is a way to get access to the transport departments registration transfer data? They would have relatively accurate prices due to stamp duty being paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted 28July, 2023 Report Share Posted 28July, 2023 1 hour ago, AndrewM said: Does anyone know if there is a way to get access to the transport departments registration transfer data? They would have relatively accurate prices due to stamp duty being paid In my experience in Qld at least, the quoted price for rego stamp duty doesn't often bear resemblance to the price actually paid. If the buyer gets the seller to leave the price on the transfer form blank, a price from Redbook, for example, can be used with some confidence, Redbook price usually being well below actual price, especially for Porsche. sjm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzJustin Posted 30July, 2023 Report Share Posted 30July, 2023 On 28/07/2023 at 19:03, LeeM said: A member here has looked at the first two cars and passed on them, so they might not be all they seem Interesting. Have any members been to look at this WA example? It's been listed for ages and keen to understand the story.https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1989-porsche-944-s2-manual/SSE-AD-14562745/?Cr=10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergerac Posted 30July, 2023 Report Share Posted 30July, 2023 47 minutes ago, OzJustin said: Interesting. Have any members been to look at this WA example? It's been listed for ages and keen to understand the story.https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1989-porsche-944-s2-manual/SSE-AD-14562745/?Cr=10 I had it on a hoist about 18 months ago, there didn't appear to be anything particularly wrong with it, he wanted $43k at the time which I though was too high for the Km's. Has big reds and M030 suspension. Was listed for $35k no long ago though a local broker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergerac Posted 30July, 2023 Report Share Posted 30July, 2023 13 minutes ago, mrar said: no story not surprised. sold ages ago. Interesting, John sold it ages ago? Was that a new owner trying to sell it back in Feb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzJustin Posted 31July, 2023 Report Share Posted 31July, 2023 19 hours ago, mrar said: no story not surprised. sold ages ago. It's still listed on Carsales now with a 'John' as the seller and rego expired May 2023. Maybe he's neglected to remove the listing? I enquired several months ago but never got a response. I've seen about a dozen other people enquire on the car over the many months too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAC911 Posted 31July, 2023 Report Share Posted 31July, 2023 On 28/07/2023 at 19:13, AndrewM said: Does anyone know if there is a way to get access to the transport departments registration transfer data? They would have relatively accurate prices due to stamp duty being paid No that's restricted data. And wouldnt be accurate either, by a long way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 15August, 2023 Report Share Posted 15August, 2023 Not a bad price for a clean later model turbo https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/porsche-944-1988/sse-ad-13912095/?utm_campaign=search-alert&utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&csn_atid=939478bc-8978-4b24-9d34-329b6cf89fe0 Yeatesy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 15August, 2023 Report Share Posted 15August, 2023 59 minutes ago, Stepo said: Not a bad price for a clean later model turbo https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/porsche-944-1988/sse-ad-13912095/ Seller does seem to be moving towards the market at least, although dunno what happened in July 😅 Stepo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergerac Posted 15August, 2023 Report Share Posted 15August, 2023 damn if that had an LSD it would probably save me a lot of time and money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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