SS 3 Posted 1April, 2023 Report Share Posted 1April, 2023 19 hours ago, hugh said: No doubt the 997 is a big step up from the 996 but I would argue that there is more of a growing enthusiast market for 996’s. It’s a different buyer, but personally, I’d value a neat 996.1 over a 997.1 - it’s not too dissimilar to what the 964/993 market has experienced. Fair enough i tend to look at the basics ie cars fundamentals and take a longer term view based on this. They are all great cars let’s see what this all looks like in 5 years. Rick V, hugh and on_booost 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 2April, 2023 Report Share Posted 2April, 2023 8 hours ago, SS 3 said: Fair enough i tend to look at the basics ie cars fundamentals and take a longer term view based on this. They are all great cars let’s see what this all looks like in 5 years. On paper, you wouldn’t expect a 73RS to be worth more than any GT3 model but there are ultimately various factors that play a part in creating desirability. Joz and SS 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_booost Posted 5April, 2023 Report Share Posted 5April, 2023 Rare is rare. Unless it's not. Rare repeated again and again tends to dilute the Rareness ? The batteries in my crystal ball are bad. I have no idea what the economy/world/China/Russia/Donald J does... YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson59 Posted 11April, 2023 Report Share Posted 11April, 2023 11 of these on the market now with a limited choice of colours www.carsales.com.au/cars/porsche/911/gt3-badge/997-series/?sort=Price hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted 11April, 2023 Report Share Posted 11April, 2023 All listed too high imo. edgy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 11April, 2023 Report Share Posted 11April, 2023 38 minutes ago, sleazius said: All listed too high imo. Imagine you had a Lapis Blue one… TwoHeadsTas, luzzo, P-Kay and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_booost Posted 16April, 2023 Report Share Posted 16April, 2023 On 11/04/2023 at 12:23, wilson59 said: 11 of these on the market now with a limited choice of colours www.carsales.com.au/cars/porsche/911/gt3-badge/997-series/?sort=Price And then there was 10.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbedford Posted 30April, 2023 Report Share Posted 30April, 2023 On 11/04/2023 at 22:41, edgy said: Imagine you had a Lapis Blue one… There was this one for sale a couple of years ago, but the owner was well dodgy GC9911 and TwoHeadsTas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 17May, 2023 Report Share Posted 17May, 2023 Anyone see where the collecting cars bidding finished on the 997.1 GT3 CS (NSW) this afternoon? Unfortunately I missed it, got passed in so can’t access anything from their website. Was @205k with a couple of hours to go, my guess was low 2’s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 17May, 2023 Report Share Posted 17May, 2023 9 minutes ago, hugh said: Anyone see where the collecting cars bidding finished on the 997.1 GT3 CS (NSW) this afternoon? Unfortunately I missed it, got passed in so can’t access anything from their website. Was @205k with a couple of hours to go, my guess was low 2’s? $227k + BP I am told hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 17May, 2023 Report Share Posted 17May, 2023 1 minute ago, edgy said: $227k + BP I am told Seems about right, obviously below the sellers expectations though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 17May, 2023 Report Share Posted 17May, 2023 1 hour ago, hugh said: Seems about right, obviously below the sellers expectations though. Agree hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter 996 Posted 17May, 2023 Report Share Posted 17May, 2023 That was my car, i sold it to Porsche Centre South Sydney last year through YTG. If they sold at that price they were destined to loose a considerable amount of money..... hugh and edgy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 17May, 2023 Report Share Posted 17May, 2023 8 hours ago, hugh said: Seems about right, obviously below the sellers expectations though. Hugh, Did you notice the service records? The early entries appeared unusual. There was also no mention of overrev history too. Again I thought that was odd too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 17May, 2023 Report Share Posted 17May, 2023 30 minutes ago, Peter M said: Hugh, Did you notice the service records? The early entries appeared unusual. There was also no mention of overrev history too. Again I thought that was odd too. No Peter, I didn’t get as far as looking through the service records. Given it didn’t sell, no doubt it will pop up again somewhere else. I think there are a lot of sellers out there that will need to adjust expectations closer in-line with pre-covid pricing if they actually want to move their cars. An auction platform like Collecting Cars gives a real indication of where the current market is at. Pre covid a 997.1 GT3 was circa 200k, so I’d say the final bid is fair buying. There is a glut of them at 250-270 on CS and at that pricing I can’t see them moving. on_booost, Boosh and Peter M 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC Posted 17May, 2023 Report Share Posted 17May, 2023 I was watching that one, more out of curiosity than genuine interest. Passed in at $227,500 + $10k buyers premium. hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter 996 Posted 18May, 2023 Report Share Posted 18May, 2023 The car had one odd service ( Fast Way Motors ) but it ran flawlessly in the 6 years that i owned the vehicle. During my time if ownership it was serviced at PCM Motorsport division and had a zero overrev report. I still have the photo of the report and PCSS have an updated one aswell Peter M and hugh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 18May, 2023 Report Share Posted 18May, 2023 2 hours ago, hugh said: No Peter, I didn’t get as far as looking through the service records. Given it didn’t sell, no doubt it will pop up again somewhere else. I think there are a lot of sellers out there that will need to adjust expectations closer in-line with pre-covid pricing if they actually want to move their cars. An auction platform like Collecting Cars gives a real indication of where the current market is at. Pre covid a 997.1 GT3 was circa 200k, so I’d say the final bid is fair buying. There is a glut of them at 250-270 on CS and at that pricing I can’t see them moving. I agree! And I actually think that is a pretty strong result in the climate if you include the BP... mid $200's prior to 2020 would have bagged you a 997.2 ... and for the record you are bang on with the $200k +/- being the high tide mark prior. This goes for all the Porsche GT market ^^ IMO, same way I don't think a 991.1 GT3 is a $300k~ car hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM911 Posted 18May, 2023 Report Share Posted 18May, 2023 5 minutes ago, edgy said: I agree! And I actually think that is a pretty strong result in the climate if you include the BP... mid $200's prior to 2020 would have bagged you a 997.2 ... and for the record you are bang on with the $200k +/- being the high tide mark prior. This goes for all the Porsche GT market ^^ IMO, same way I don't think a 991.1 GT3 is a $300k~ car What do you think of 991.2 gt3 manual then @edgy ?? still 400+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 18May, 2023 Report Share Posted 18May, 2023 7 minutes ago, DM911 said: What do you think of 991.2 gt3 manual then @edgy ?? still 400+? Nope... but I don't think the 991 RS is a $400k car either... If I am wrong on that, there wouldn't 9 of them gathering dust on car-sales! DM911 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk86 Posted 18May, 2023 Report Share Posted 18May, 2023 1 hour ago, Peter 996 said: The car had one odd service ( Fast Way Motors ) but it ran flawlessly in the 6 years that i owned the vehicle. During my time if ownership it was serviced at PCM Motorsport division and had a zero overrev report. I still have the photo of the report and PCSS have an updated one aswell Interestingly in the comments on collecting cars PCSS noted it had overrevs all in the lower ranges. It’s still on their website asking $289k drive away. https://finder.porsche.com/au/en-AU/details/porsche-911-gt3-preowned-P68P6E?condition=used&dealership=10055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 18May, 2023 Report Share Posted 18May, 2023 1 hour ago, DM911 said: What do you think of 991.2 gt3 manual then @edgy ?? still 400+? Again, pre-covid, 991.2's were transacting at high 2's to low 3's. 991.2 RS's lowest pricing was still mid 4's. DM911 and SS 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe_racer Posted 7June, 2023 Report Share Posted 7June, 2023 Love how a 997.2 is now priced below from 997.1 gt3’s and still isn’t moving. Lotta dreamers out there with 997.1’s chasing the high water mark of last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 8June, 2023 Report Share Posted 8June, 2023 1 hour ago, cafe_racer said: Love how a 997.2 is now priced below from 997.1 gt3’s and still isn’t moving. Lotta dreamers out there with 997.1’s chasing the high water mark of last year. The dealer has been changing the price up and down on this over the past few weeks/months.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM911 Posted 8June, 2023 Report Share Posted 8June, 2023 7 minutes ago, hugh said: The dealer has been changing the price up and down on this over the past few weeks/months.................. Years…! hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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