KGB Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 1 minute ago, disco said: Yep, they told me that had keen interest on it after I put a deposit on it. I was there at 11am and bought it on the spot. Quick and the carless. disco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 3 hours ago, Naldz88 said: Afternoon all and thanks @KGB for throwing me in the deep end haha I recently spoke with Lorbek about the midnight blue 03 they have listed. Looks great cosmetically but the service interval is a concern. Between 2006 and 2017 no service was carried out and under further investigation the car had been sitting in a collection and put on 13.5k km during that time. They are asking a premium (also no IMS upgrade) and id be interested to know everyone’s thoughts on it. Cheers Don't feel special ... he did the same to me! .. 😅 Regarding the service history ... I'm with @KGB ... a huge hole like that would have me turning around. The one I bought has 2 x small holes but I kinda figured that with the little driving I do with it each year, it will be serviced on an annual basis and in the next few years those 2 x anomalies will be long in the past. But an 11 year gap will never be able to be hidden ... 😪 2 hours ago, kov said: Is the Lorbek car the same blue C4S that is on Carsales Listed for 92k? I messaged the 92k car from Carsales seller when it was I think 80k, I sought our the service history info and noticed there was a massive gap in service history stamps, declined to take it further considering what was the asking price. Yes ... one and the same. The number plates are the same. The rear reflector threw me off initially as the one on Gumtree has it blacked out, until I realised that he probably did that due to it being quite washed out and faded. That car "was" down to $79k on Gumtree at one stage ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dreamr said: The one I bought has 2 x small holes but I kinda figured that with the little driving I do with it each year, it will be serviced on an annual basis and in the next few years those 2 x anomalies will be long in the past. But an 11 year gap will never be able to be hidden ... Tiny pin pricks in the scheme of things, bugger all km’s recorded, mine was the same. Good history henceforth sorts it out. Unless it blows up. If you read the service requirements they’re simple oil changes basically, missing one over 7000km with modern oils is nothing too disconcerting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl888 Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 The biggest issue for a 996 that's been sitting for 11 years, is the brake fluid. A 996 (Like most other cars of its era) has 2 year brake fluid change intervals. For the unitiated, brake fluid is highly hygroscopic and absorbs water at an alarming rate irrespective if you drive it or not. Hence the 2 year change interval. Once it absorbs enough water the system rots from the inside out. Usually the master cylinder will bypass and/or you'll have a sticky piston(s) in the caliper(s) Unfortunately inspection of these critical components is destructive. An 11 year gap with no brake fluid changes will entail a new master cylinder and a rebuild of all 4 calipers with new seals. May as well do the brake hoses whilst you're in there. You could probably start the process by by doing a fluid test from the reservoir to check the % of water. If the seller disagrees with the above, no problem, just get your Lawyer to draw up an agreement for the seller to guarantee the integrity of brake system 😛 It's not like a door trim that's lose, or a crack in the dash, it's a serious safety issue that could have very serious implications for your safety and others. TINGY and JWM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 1 hour ago, KGB said: Tiny pin pricks in the scheme of things, bugger all km’s recorded, mine was the same. Good history henceforth sorts it out. Unless it blows up. If you read the service requirements they’re simple oil changes basically, missing one over 7000km with modern oils is nothing too disconcerting. Totally agree ... I’ve absolutely let it go, never to be mentioned again! .. 😎 1 hour ago, carl888 said: lIf the seller disagrees with the above, no problem, just get your Lawyer to draw up an agreement for the seller to guarantee the integrity of brake system 😛 Might just be easier to just walk away I reckon ... 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 2 hours ago, KGB said: Show me a C4S without rear spacers. Here you go: Based on delivery option stickers: One Aus delivery https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2002-porsche-911-carrera-4s-996-auto-awd-my02/OAG-AD-18939987/?Cr=4 One UK Delivery https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2002-porsche-911-carrera-4s-996-manual-awd-my02/OAG-AD-18938154/?Cr=3 I'd be happy to know if they all have the Rear wheel spacers, just I expected it to be listed as an option like AH black 4S that @Dreamr bought (love that car ). Dreamr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLD Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 2 hours ago, carl888 said: The biggest issue for a 996 that's been sitting for 11 years, is the brake fluid. A 996 (Like most other cars of its era) has 2 year brake fluid change intervals. For the unitiated, brake fluid is highly hygroscopic and absorbs water at an alarming rate irrespective if you drive it or not. Hence the 2 year change interval. Once it absorbs enough water the system rots from the inside out. Usually the master cylinder will bypass and/or you'll have a sticky piston(s) in the caliper(s) Unfortunately inspection of these critical components is destructive. An 11 year gap with no brake fluid changes will entail a new master cylinder and a rebuild of all 4 calipers with new seals. May as well do the brake hoses whilst you're in there. You could probably start the process by by doing a fluid test from the reservoir to check the % of water. If the seller disagrees with the above, no problem, just get your Lawyer to draw up an agreement for the seller to guarantee the integrity of brake system 😛 It's not like a door trim that's lose, or a crack in the dash, it's a serious safety issue that could have very serious implications for your safety and others. Lorbeks would never agree to anything of the sort... They’re known to do the bare minimum for roadworthy Dave997S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 50 minutes ago, luzzo said: Here you go: Based on delivery option stickers: Mine has XRN listed. I understood they all did. I stand corrected, you’ve proven they didn’t. Strange option, why not make it standard to fill the guards, unless the optional wheel was wider or ran a different offset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 3 hours ago, KGB said: Mine has XRN listed. I understood they all did. I stand corrected, you’ve proven they didn’t. Well ... you did ask him to show you after all ... 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 7 hours ago, Dreamr said: Well ... you did ask him to show you after all ... 😅 I STAND CORRECTED. 😜 Dreamr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Kay Posted 2August, 2020 Report Share Posted 2August, 2020 @Stepo Well done on another correctly coloured P car to your stables Sir. I can't help but wonder/know that this will be the 'go-to car' of choice. The 996 is a great handling and driving car - Especially with some suspension refresh/upgrades - I do miss mine Stepo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 3August, 2020 Report Share Posted 3August, 2020 I dip my ear into the PFA waters and hearing Whale song; so much (996) love, latent and repressed, so long... what caused this recent upwelling ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTY Posted 3August, 2020 Author Report Share Posted 3August, 2020 3 minutes ago, michel said: I dip my ear into the PFA waters and hearing Whale song; so much (996) love, latent and repressed, so long... what caused this recent upwelling ? They have been undervalued for way too long @michel it’s a little bit like when the 964 was the odd one out in the group,All I can say is for the money they can’t be beat and hopefully people are finally getting the message of how good they are to drive and own. Stepo and Dreamr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadsTas Posted 3August, 2020 Report Share Posted 3August, 2020 27 minutes ago, MARTY said: They have been undervalued for way too long @michel it’s a little bit like when the 964 was the odd one out in the group,All I can say is for the money they can’t be beat and hopefully people are finally getting the message of how good they are to drive and own. Just a pity this wasn't recognised in Tassie 6 months ago as I was trying to sell my .2 C2 Tip to fund my GT3 purchase 😞 Dave997S, Shedpest and MARTY 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 3August, 2020 Report Share Posted 3August, 2020 9 minutes ago, TwoHeadsTas said: Just a pity this wasn't recognised in Tassie 6 months ago as I was trying to sell my .2 C2 Tip to fund my GT3 purchase 😞 You should’ve been the cool kid on the block and called it a .2 C2 Sportomatic TwoHeadsTas and Dave997S 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 3August, 2020 Report Share Posted 3August, 2020 1 hour ago, michel said: I dip my ear into the PFA waters and hearing Whale song; so much (996) love, latent and repressed, so long... what caused this recent upwelling ? It’s an Orca of a car. 🐋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 3August, 2020 Report Share Posted 3August, 2020 1 hour ago, michel said: I dip my ear into the PFA waters and hearing Whale song; so much (996) love, latent and repressed, so long... what caused this recent upwelling ? It’s like everything Porsche ... it goes in swings and roundabouts. It happened with the 914, the humble SC, the slant nose and even the 3.0 Carrera ... and that’s just the tip of it. I personally went for the C4S as its the equivalent of the original M491 option on the G series ... how much flack did they cop?? ... and who’s laughing now! JWM, KGB, luzzo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 3August, 2020 Report Share Posted 3August, 2020 4 hours ago, Dreamr said: It’s like everything Porsche ... it goes in swings and roundabouts. It happened with the 914, the humble SC, the slant nose and even the 3.0 Carrera ... and that’s just the tip of it. Correct Whatever is flavour of the month seems to go up in price the following month. One minute its longhoods, then they become out of reach to most (still are), so they look at SC's etc. Then of course they go up by popular demand and people can't justify the expense, so they go for something cheaper...aka a 996. Now they're in demand, because they're bloody good cars at half the price (or were) of a nice SC...and so the circle of life continues 😁 KGB, Stepo and Dreamr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 4August, 2020 Report Share Posted 4August, 2020 I'd say about $25k overpriced https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2002-Porsche-911-Carrera-Cabriolet-3-6L-Update-model/164245911294?hash=item263dd1b6fe:g:VwwAAOSwXl9fFkEa&frcectupt=true Mentions very low k's but no confirmation.............very low can be a negative not a positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 4August, 2020 Report Share Posted 4August, 2020 3 hours ago, Stepo said: I'd say about $25k overpriced $35 more like it Tips, TwoHeadsTas and White_996 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 4August, 2020 Report Share Posted 4August, 2020 48 minutes ago, TINGY996 said: $35 more like it Spot on, I missed the fact it was an auto as well, I was trying to be nice. Maybe priced high cause his spouse wants it sold 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D2000 Posted 4August, 2020 Report Share Posted 4August, 2020 5 hours ago, Stepo said: I'd say about $25k overpriced https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2002-Porsche-911-Carrera-Cabriolet-3-6L-Update-model/164245911294?hash=item263dd1b6fe:g:VwwAAOSwXl9fFkEa&frcectupt=true Mentions very low k's but no confirmation.............very low can be a negative not a positive. To put it in perspective, I picked my coupe up for mid 60's and it's a pearler Looks like a 996.1 taco wing on a 996.2 convertible - interesting choice. That alone would be worth a few grand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 4August, 2020 Report Share Posted 4August, 2020 Kilometres: 74377 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL911 Posted 4August, 2020 Report Share Posted 4August, 2020 New one for a potential X51 buyer this evening - was offered $50k and $15k of furniture. Assuming that’s retail.. so a polite “no” from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 4August, 2020 Report Share Posted 4August, 2020 22 minutes ago, AL911 said: New one for a potential X51 buyer this evening - was offered $50k and $15k of furniture. Assuming that’s retail.. so a polite “no” from me. Well, at least that's got effort for trying to be creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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