disco Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 Looks are subjective... for me, way too much Beetle! 🤣🤣🤣 Hang on to your 996 mate. Cheers, Dave. Troubleshooter, Naldz88, MFX and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shedpest Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 31 minutes ago, disco said: I reckon 997’s will be worth a lot less than these soon. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, I just pissed my pants Is someone making the 997 to 996 headlight backdate kit yet? Zelrik911, MFX, Troubleshooter and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 1 minute ago, Shedpest said: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, I just pissed my pants 😜😜😜😜 Time will tell. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick V Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 Hey, if the (previously) unloved (read universally hated) 964 could be worth more than ANYTHING, who knows how the market will treat the 996 in years to come?!?!? Tips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rick V said: Hey, if the (previously) unloved (read universally hated) 964 could be worth more than ANYTHING, who knows how the market will treat the 996 in years to come?!?!? The naysayers will end up with fried 🍳 on their faces!😂😂😂😂 Ahhh.... love it!😁 cheers, Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 48 minutes ago, MFX said: That little k's on a car of that age is not necessarily a good thing and that is 997 money... But you're not comparing apples to apples... 997 money you speak of is for possibly a base model vs a 996 C4S. I can tell you first hand that a 997 C4S is $30k - $40k more than it's 996 counterpart. One of the reasons I didn't buy a 997 C4S is that I couldn't justify the price difference. Then add that it was too "nice" and the beautiful red reflector was missing, etc, etc and the 996 it was! ... KGB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFX Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 Just now, Dreamr said: But you're not comparing apples to apples... 997 money you speak of is for possibly a base model vs a 996 C4S. I can tell you first hand that a 997 C4S is $30k - $40k more than it's 996 counterpart. One of the reasons I didn't buy a 997 C4S is that I couldn't justify the price difference. Then add that it was too "nice" and the beautiful red reflector was missing, etc, etc and the 996 it was! ... Each to their own I suppose. After driving the 997 and 996 back to back, the 997 was soo much better to drive and I put 90% of that down to the shorter second gear in the 997. The 996 gearing is too tall and I do think the 6C4S looks good, but I personally still think a base 997c2 looks much better (particularly the interior). I would love it if the 996's became more valuable. Give me one of those crappy 997's and money my way reggiegums and Dreamr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson59 Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 Just now, MFX said: Each to their own I suppose. After driving the 997 and 996 back to back, the 997 was soo much better to drive and I put 90% of that down to the shorter second gear in the 997. The 996 gearing is too tall and I do think the 6C4S looks good, but I personally still think a base 997c2 looks much better (particularly the interior). I would love it if the 996's became more valuable. Give me one of those crappy 997's and money my way Your on the money . Forget the headlight debate the interior in the 996 is dated badly . I can’t see it ever being retro cool 😎 MFX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shedpest Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 Stock up before the panic buying starts https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/303473776332 Dreamr, MFX and Rick V 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 8 minutes ago, wilson59 said: Your on the money . Forget the headlight debate the interior in the 996 is dated badly . I can’t see it ever being retro cool 😎 But any car that is 20 years old is dated ... not exactly exclusive to the 996 interior .. I personally love that it's got the dorky old school feel .. the 997 interior with Its multifunction steering wheel was much like my Mercedes .. less sports car feel and more headed towards the luxury end. 18 minutes ago, MFX said: Each to their own I suppose. After driving the 997 and 996 back to back, the 997 was soo much better to drive and I put 90% of that down to the shorter second gear in the 997. The 996 gearing is too tall and I do think the 6C4S looks good, but I personally still think a base 997c2 looks much better (particularly the interior). I would love it if the 996's became more valuable. Give me one of those crappy 997's and money my way Can't really comment on the driveability differences as I'm not familiar with them, I was just making comment on comparing being able to buy a base 997 vs a near top of the range 996 C4S .. Apples for apples, a base 996 comes in at $55k - $65k odd ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnytang Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 I think there’s a fine line between dated and retro though. Take the 944 interior, the pre-86 is definitely dated and just not that great, while the oval dashes have aged quite nicely in comparison. MFX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl888 Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 38 minutes ago, MFX said: Each to their own I suppose. After driving the 997 and 996 back to back, the 997 was soo much better to drive and I put 90% of that down to the shorter second gear in the 997. The 996 gearing is too tall and I do think the 6C4S looks good, but I personally still think a base 997c2 looks much better (particularly the interior). I would love it if the 996's became more valuable. Give me one of those crappy 997's and money my way Just curious about the the gearing you mention in the 996/997. 2.20:1 for the 996 and 2.32:1 on the 997 in second gear with the same 3.44:1 final drive. However the 19" wheels on the 997 up the gearing by approximately 4%, making the overall gearing in each gear almost identical. 996: http://www.gboxweb.com/996specs.html 997: http://www.gboxweb.com/997specs.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFX Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 25 minutes ago, carl888 said: Just curious about the the gearing you mention in the 996/997. 2.20:1 for the 996 and 2.32:1 on the 997 in second gear with the same 3.44:1 final drive. However the 19" wheels on the 997 up the gearing by approximately 4%, making the overall gearing in each gear almost identical. 996: http://www.gboxweb.com/996specs.html 997: http://www.gboxweb.com/997specs.html Interesting figures. All I can say is that driving back to back was night and day difference (the 997 was also available with the spec 18's on the 996). A lot of it could be the torque difference as it was a 3.8S I drove, but either way the 997 gearing suited the car, where in the 996 I find 2nd gear too high for the torque and in a spirited drive on a fun road, it struggles out of slow corners and I can't bring myself to change back to 1st. GC9911 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 I find the gearing on the 3.4 996 just about perfect in the twisties. I love the revvy nature of the 3.4, winding up and down between 2nd and 3rd on a favourite twisty. There was a time coming back from Hanger Banger along the Great Ocean Road, the 996 gods were shining on me and I got an almost clear run. I’ve driven along that road in a lot of different cars over the last 30 years and that drive in the 996 is the most memorable. It’s one of the most sublime driving experiences I’ve ever had. There’s not one thing I would’ve changed on the car in that few hours. I also managed to get in a cheeky mtb ride at Forrest and fish and chips in Apollo Bay. What a day that was. Seems a world away now in lockdown Melbug. GTP911, cs124, Stepo and 5 others 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 1 hour ago, DT said: Seems a world away now in lockdown Melbug. Damn right @DT, those days seem a distant memory. Like most things in hindsight, didn't realise we should have been cherishing those outings at the time. Thanks for sharing the story on the 996. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 6 hours ago, MFX said: That little k's on a car of that age is not necessarily a good thing and that is 997 money... I'd rather the 996. Low km's are not necessarily a bad thing either, my 16 yr old C4S with 60km hasn't exploded yet! 5 hours ago, Rick V said: Hey, if the (previously) unloved (read universally hated) 964 could be worth more than ANYTHING, who knows how the market will treat the 996 in years to come?!?!? I've backed both in for the win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 5 hours ago, DT said: I find the gearing on the 3.4 996 just about perfect in the twisties. I love the revvy nature of the 3.4, winding up and down between 2nd and 3rd on a favourite twisty. There was a time coming back from Hanger Banger along the Great Ocean Road, the 996 gods were shining on me and I got an almost clear run. I’ve driven along that road in a lot of different cars over the last 30 years and that drive in the 996 is the most memorable. It’s one of the most sublime driving experiences I’ve ever had. There’s not one thing I would’ve changed on the car in that few hours. I also managed to get in a cheeky mtb ride at Forrest and fish and chips in Apollo Bay. What a day that was. Seems a world away now in lockdown Melbug. And you probably didn't look at the speedo let alone the interior. 😆 They're a chassis built for driving, and it's the driving you remember. So drive drive drive those buggies boys. Btw, nobody gets everything, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 19August, 2020 Report Share Posted 19August, 2020 4 hours ago, firstone said: And you probably didn't look at the speedo let alone the interior. 😆 I had my eyes glued to the speedo your honour. And I only ever look at the interior when I’m hosing it out. That’s the beauty of the boggo 996 interior, it’s tough as old boots. And I’ve never found it an unpleasant place to be. Granted it shared some plastic finishes with the Mitsubishi Magna of the same era, but that’s never bothered me. Perhaps now a little nostalgia’s creeping in for that era of interior design. I think it’s past the term ‘dated’... maybe it’s about to hand that baton to the 997! TwoHeadsTas, Carrera28, Stepo and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson59 Posted 20August, 2020 Report Share Posted 20August, 2020 34 minutes ago, DT said: I had my eyes glued to the speedo your honour. And I only ever look at the interior when I’m hosing it out. That’s the beauty of the boggo 996 interior, it’s tough as old boots. And I’ve never found it an unpleasant place to be. Granted it shared some plastic finishes with the Mitsubishi Magna of the same era, but that’s never bothered me. Perhaps now a little nostalgia’s creeping in for that era of interior design. I think it’s past the term ‘dated’... maybe it’s about to hand that baton to the 997! Usually when I see an interior like that it has one of these on the roof JWM, Shedpest, LeeM and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20August, 2020 Report Share Posted 20August, 2020 996 owners gotta make a living. Can’t just stick em in the garage waiting for them to double in value while we fiddle about with our share trades and testosterone boosters. TwoHeadsTas, JWM, GTP911 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 20August, 2020 Report Share Posted 20August, 2020 47 minutes ago, wilson59 said: Usually when I see an interior like that it has one of these on the roof Ooooh ... Shots Fired!! ... 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 20August, 2020 Report Share Posted 20August, 2020 Porsche have always prided themselves on simplistic design..............achieved with the 996 interior (it is a 20 year old car). IMO, I think the cabin is a cosy place to be, nice seats, steering/pedal/shift position. Good HVAC along with vision around the car and sound quality. There's mostly only two places I'm looking when driving it, out the windscreen and the tacho Carrera28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 20August, 2020 Report Share Posted 20August, 2020 16 hours ago, MFX said: That little k's on a car of that age is not necessarily a good thing and that is 997 money... Spot on And @wilson59 Thanks for the taxi comment. I blew coffee out across the room 😂😂😂 Shedpest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rick V Posted 20August, 2020 Report Share Posted 20August, 2020 10 hours ago, KGB said: I've backed both in for the win! Clearly a man with a crystal ball...... .any hot tips for the Cranbourne doggies, Friday night? Dreamr and michel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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