JLD Posted 2July, 2016 Report Share Posted 2July, 2016 I need rid of a silver car and red car Edgy, I live in a trailer park at the moment.. Im basically at the stage where the I cars have to be put into the trailers Although the idea of GT car to drive to and from the track is getting kinda more and more novel.. but theres a few sticky points beyond the parking and i will call that the great undoing ... I wouldnt have to buy a new 4WD thats in progress and I wouldnt potentially need tow the bloody trailer i recently bought and then I wouldnt potentially fix the thing and have it in the middle of the garage for weeks…. when I come home .. There must be a finacial advisor who can talk me through this one .. The Mrs accepted a 10k trailer purchase , purchasing her a second car so I could take the 4WD and she would still have a car to drive and has since accepted the repair bills to the 4WD and now the ESKY in the sick bay ....lets just say that little lot is a 30k down payment and its my shame I have to climb over…tracks/racing a very worthy pursuit in a womans ideas.Relationship counsellor required!! And carbonara and handbags havent fixed it try ??????????????????? symsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 2July, 2016 Report Share Posted 2July, 2016 (edited) I didn't say anything ?Thats right michel, The badly chosen words were brought to the forum from cabernet sauvignon in relationship to the discussion in being able to get cars built or hotroded cheaper o/s then returned home , no offence intended Edited 2July, 2016 by tomo symsy and scashin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonN Posted 2July, 2016 Report Share Posted 2July, 2016 Thats right michel, The badly chosen words were brought to the forum from cabernet sauvignon in relationship to the discussion in being able to get cars built or hotroded cheaper o/s then returned home , no offence intended Like it or not, it is a fact. We pay significantly more for work on our cars than you would have to in the UK (and elsewhere, for all I know). I was deeply shocked when I first came over here. For instance, just before I came over, i paid $8,000 for a full respray on my 964RS by one of the top Porsche specialists in the UK. I had considered getting it done here in Oz, so that if there was any damage when the car was in transit, it wouldn't be so much of an issue. However, even back then, the cheapest i could get it done in Sydney by somebody with a decent reputation was $15,000, quote based on description and photos.Next consider the price we pay for parts. We pay an outrageous premium. With some parts, it is actually cheaper to buy them from a Porsche dealership in Europe and ship them here than it is to buy the from Porsche here. If you go to some of the specialist Porsche parts companies, both in Europe and the USA, you can save a fortune. I have a long list of things to buy for my new car and having got quotes from here (Porsche, Autohaus etc) and overseas, even with shipping, I can save 20%.Then there is the fact that people are even sending large parts overseas for reconditioning. I know of gearboxes being sent overseas for rebuild (although I admit I don't fully understand the economics of that one!)Sending a car to the UK and back is about $10,000. Compare the prices of doing a "Zag" and you will see that you can save a fair amount of money sending the car to the UK, so long as you put the car on a carnet and you don't get stung for tax on the work when the car comes back. yes, that latter part is a bit dodgy, but customs sees a Porsche going out and a Porsche coming back........ tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELSPORTO Posted 2July, 2016 Report Share Posted 2July, 2016 Beers I understand, but it's a little early for the cab sav, no? tomo and Stew F 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 2July, 2016 Report Share Posted 2July, 2016 Thats right michel, The badly chosen words were brought to the forum from cabernet sauvignon in relationship to the discussion in being able to get cars built or hotroded cheaper o/s then returned home , no offence intended tomo none in the least was taken tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 2July, 2016 Report Share Posted 2July, 2016 Beers I understand, but it's a little early for the cab sav, no? The cab sav was about the same time last night, And yes a little early right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 3July, 2016 Report Share Posted 3July, 2016 Sending a car to the UK and back is about $10,000. Compare the prices of doing a "Zag" and you will see that you can save a fair amount of money sending the car to the UK, so long as you put the car on a carnet and you don't get stung for tax on the work when the car comes back. yes, that latter part is a bit dodgy, but customs sees a Porsche going out and a Porsche coming back........ watch the last part. Pretty sure I read somewhere that if you extensively modify a car overseas the government (whoever they are) reclassifies the age of the car to the age of the MOD. If true it turns the car into an after 89 car and you couldn't reimport. Probably another reason why you don't see any Singers here. When I spoke to them in LA they said they had tried to speak to the Australian Government but couldn't get them to approve the car to the more recent and stringent standards that the old cars don't have to follow. The website you showed us had a lot of 'from' figures, + it separated the interior costs. I doubt if you would walk away without spending much less than £25k, which used to be about $50k OZ + your $10k shipping + $6k gst, you are not that far from the $75k ZAG price.now quit your winging and go visit your mother (land) for summer (16degrees there yesterday) and lie on a Spanish beach before they lock you out ?Oh, have a look again at the pics on the website. Don't you love the way the salt on the road glistens in the sunlight? tomo none in the least was taken so why were you crying in my arms last night?? Ozvino 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 3July, 2016 Report Share Posted 3July, 2016 I need rid of a silver car and red car Edgy, I live in a trailer park at the moment.. Im basically at the stage where the I cars have to be put into the trailers Although the idea of GT car to drive to and from the track is getting kinda more and more novel.. but theres a few sticky points beyond the parking and i will call that the great undoing ... I wouldnt have to buy a new 4WD thats in progress and I wouldnt potentially need tow the bloody trailer i recently bought and then I wouldnt potentially fix the thing and have it in the middle of the garage for weeks…. when I come home .. There must be a finacial advisor who can talk me through this one .. The Mrs accepted a 10k trailer purchase , purchasing her a second car so I could take the 4WD and she would still have a car to drive and has since accepted the repair bills to the 4WD and now the ESKY in the sick bay ....lets just say that little lot is a 30k down payment and its my shame I have to climb over…tracks/racing a very worthy pursuit in a womans ideas.Relationship counsellor required!! And carbonara and handbags havent fixed it Gotta up the ante to fine dining & Cartier The cab sav was about the same time last night, And yes a little early right now.blasphemy, it's 5 o'clock somewhere! tomo and symsy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonN Posted 3July, 2016 Report Share Posted 3July, 2016 TurboTYou are right about the salt! Plays havoc with the underneath of the car, but the Brits love salt with everything, particularly chips........As for the costs of getting the car done in the UK, my friend got his done, including a very smart interior, for under £20k. That makes it $55k, using the figures above. So you save $20k on Zag. Even if we take your figures, you save $9k, or 14%.If we then apply the actual exchange rate today ($1.77), it comes out at closer to $60K. That's a saving of 25%. So on an "all in" cost of, say, $160-75k (including buying the car), is a saving of $15,000 worth sending a car around the world?The extensive modification is potentially an issue and I can see how, with a car like the Singer, it would be a real problem. There is barely a nut or bolt that isn't modified. The question is whether changing a few panels and a respray is "extensive" modification, if the main body, engine, gearbox and suspension remain exactly the same. I thought the whole argument about these backdates was that it was cosmetic and not extensive modification. Additionally, would a customs man be able to tell the difference between, say, a 964 leaving the country and a backdated 964 returning? I don't think they take photographs for a carnet and the chassis, engine and gearbox numbers remain the same.As for visiting the mother country, whenever I have done it in the last 10 years they have been complaining f heatwaves (over 25 degrees!!). And why would I go to Spain for the beaches when we have the best beaches here in Sydney? Anyway, they will keep letting me in as I have an Oz passport turboT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 3July, 2016 Report Share Posted 3July, 2016 Thats the 'thing' here mateFrom who I have spoken to, and from what I have read on here, it seems people want it done NOW, and just pay what they are told to. A 'Porsche guy' I met said he was given a $30k quote for a basic paint job, not a bare metal resto, from a 'European specialist'. I told him to shop around, and he settled on a job by a good painter and paid less than $10k for a great job! Sending a car overseas is a bit of a laff if you ask me, as you won't be infront by much financially. If one can afford to pay $160k on a resto, you can afford to pay a bit extra to have it done here. That, and not to mention the headache of sending it there and back, plus the time it will take on total, and that you're sending money overseas, and not spending it here with employers and their employees. Sure, I've bought parts from the US, as they were LOADS cheaper, but I'm talking about employing an Australian company to do the work, not buying parts. I had a mate do my paint job (in hindsight, it was probably a mistake for personal reasons) yet I had quotes that weren't that bad for what I wanted. If you want a concourse job, ofcourse you'll pay through the nose, yet could you guarantee that an overseas company will do the job to your satisfaction, based on hearsay and testimonials on a website, or ' My mate says they're bloody good' ? What happens when you're not happy with it, do you send it back for them to rectify? Buying a car from overseas is fine, yet sending one over to have work done? A fool and his money are soon parted in my opinion Hughesy and tk111 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew F Posted 3July, 2016 Report Share Posted 3July, 2016 Beers I understand, but it's a little early for the cab sav, no? isnt, it the YOTCs? Personally, I'm not a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 3July, 2016 Report Share Posted 3July, 2016 (edited) so why were you crying in my arms last night??cause you said I was your outlaw and now MW has captured your heart... Why are you making me share this so publicly ?There's a chappy who has just had Dutchman in S.Africa render him a peachy car. Though I'm uncertain whether the RHD 69 donor was sourced here and sent fed ex or sourced there? Doug AKA Mr 2.4 may know? Doug?Not certain of the motivation to have it done there, though some of it surely must have been financial. Edited 3July, 2016 by michel turboT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAP911 Posted 3July, 2016 Report Share Posted 3July, 2016 Bubble has burst. Market is dead $85k gets itDoes anyone know what became of this car - I'm interested Pretty sure this has been posted before. Still for sale. Am I missing something or is this not a really fair price?1983 ZAG Buildthis one sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Posted 3July, 2016 Report Share Posted 3July, 2016 993RShttp://www.my105.com/mobi/ListingDetails/p/2/id/12388$80k for Lefty SC cab?........?http://www.my105.com/mobi/ListingDetails/p/1/id/17578964C2 track carhttp://www.my105.com/mobi/ListingDetails/p/2/id/17569 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 3July, 2016 Report Share Posted 3July, 2016 Does anyone know when this boat is arriving with all the RS german metal on it ? Im hoping to see one of these cars in the flesh.Im seeing this comment in a few ads "Car has been well cared for and am only selling as my GT3 RS is arriving"Does anyone know what happening with the election did the motorist party get in ?As for the MY105 RS YumLets hope now that June 30th has past and the Muppets show selection is over , the web will be abundant with Car tyre kicking and proding opportunities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 4July, 2016 Report Share Posted 4July, 2016 Ad on SA Gumtree for this 924. I spoke to the owner, and it hasn't been run since 2011 after a 'full recinditioning' in 2005. Whatever that means? I was going to have a look at it, yet she's asking $13k to $14k. Its a long way from me to travel unfortunately, so I won't be looking at it....and I can't afford that sorta coin! Thought she meant $1300 to $1400! Yikes. Git a couple of other pics sent to me if anyone is keen edgy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 4July, 2016 Report Share Posted 4July, 2016 Yikes indeed! Is that the ad with virtually no info in it? http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lyndoch/cars-vans-utes/1976-porsche-924-coupe/1117564677 I like the colour, did 924s come that colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 4July, 2016 Report Share Posted 4July, 2016 Niko will know ;-) Yep, thats the one. Sounds like it's had a lot of work done back in 2005. Interior looks good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 4July, 2016 Report Share Posted 4July, 2016 That appears to be a first year 924, non sunroof too. Someone go look at it, there cannot be too many of those around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 4July, 2016 Report Share Posted 4July, 2016 (edited) Ad on SA Gumtree for this 924. I spoke to the owner, and it hasn't been run since 2011 after a 'full recinditioning' in 2005. Whatever that means? I was going to have a look at it, yet she's asking $13k to $14k. Its a long way from me to travel unfortunately, so I won't be looking at it....and I can't afford that sorta coin! Thought she meant $1300 to $1400! Yikes. Git a couple of other pics sent to me if anyone is keen Yikes indeed! Is that the ad with virtually no info in it? http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lyndoch/cars-vans-utes/1976-porsche-924-coupe/1117564677I like the colour, did 924s come that colour?Make an offer, ok let's see, '76 you say getting a bit long in the tooth, no pics in the ad, ok, $3,500 sound fair to you, no, well why don't you say you want $13-$14k for it in the ad that you didn't attach any pics to therefore most people thought it may be a basket case?Seriously 13-14k, don't want to offend but your dreamin', hasn't run since 2011, will need to spend more coin. Edited 4July, 2016 by TINGY944 ANF and LeeM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 4July, 2016 Report Share Posted 4July, 2016 You'd be mad to ship a car OS for work unless it was to get a completely finished 'product' like Singer where they have clearly defined standards and expectations. Not sure how well that mustang workshop in the Phillipines goes, I've seen them advertising.yes, Australia is expensive, never used to be like that back in the old days. Too many regs appear to be the cause, or maybe it's because it's more lucrative to fix mining equipment. Seems the pommies - for whatever crazy reason - seem to be able to fix cars for less. I'm constantly amazed at the prices for things like wheel refurbishment, paint fixes and retrims on wheeler dealers. Maybe there are just more guys able to do the work, so more competition. Maybe there's just an oversupply of old Victorian factories to setup shop in.I'd chuck it all in and start a resto-mod workshop tomorrow if I had the capital base and experience to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted 4July, 2016 Report Share Posted 4July, 2016 Always been a fan of the 924 & particular the 924 turbo, where do you guys think the values are at for a turbo? a mate has a Martini 924 its a hoot edgy and Rod C 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 4July, 2016 Report Share Posted 4July, 2016 You'd be mad to ship a car OS for work unless it was to get a completely finished 'product' like Singer where they have clearly defined standards and expectations. Not sure how well that mustang workshop in the Phillipines goes, I've seen them advertising.yes, Australia is expensive, never used to be like that back in the old days. Too many regs appear to be the cause, or maybe it's because it's more lucrative to fix mining equipment. Seems the pommies - for whatever crazy reason - seem to be able to fix cars for less. I'm constantly amazed at the prices for things like wheel refurbishment, paint fixes and retrims on wheeler dealers. Maybe there are just more guys able to do the work, so more competition. Maybe there's just an oversupply of old Victorian factories to setup shop in.I'd chuck it all in and start a resto-mod workshop tomorrow if I had the capital base and experience to do so. The issue is that we don't have an underclass of cheap labour. "Equality for everyone" ...until you get a quote for $30k for a new coat of paint The US have the Mexicans, the English have the Polish (for now). Over regulation and the protectionist attitudes driven by unions are the issue. You don't need any skill for your new venture Coastr - just a good 457visa scam, much like 7-Eleven ? TINGY and LeeM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 4July, 2016 Report Share Posted 4July, 2016 Always been a fan of the 924 & particular the 924 turbo, where do you guys think the values are at for a turbo? a mate has a Martini 924 its a hootAt the moment: Project - Sub $10k Ok car - $10k ~ Needs work, cosmetics, mechanical, dubious history, fair paintVery good - $15k ~ Books, Aussie car, presents well, not much needed, but might have had paint work etcExcellent $20k~+ Books, Aussie car, excellent original condition, desirable combination (i.e. two tone paint, pasha trim, sunroof delete etc) James P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 4July, 2016 Report Share Posted 4July, 2016 The issue is that we don't have an underclass of cheap labour. "Equality for everyone" ...until you get a quote for $30k for a new coat of paint The US have the Mexicans, the English have the Polish (for now). Over regulation and the protectionist attitudes driven by unions are the issue. You don't need any skill for your new venture Coastr - just a good 457visa scam, much like 7-Eleven ?we have Tasmanians SimonN, Dreamr, symsy and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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