Whats for sale (in Australia ) and interesting Thread

[edgy]

 

I like the Kodak yellow!! It was made me buy it.  Before I traded it with Rob for something later in orange.  the Kodak yellow is factory and rare.  The car is mint.  If he gets the 295, good luck to him.  We all need to make a living.  Rob's a great guy.

Interesting ^^ same orange creature that was there, when mine was there? ☺️ 

+ 1 on Rob. 

[Skidmarks]

I suspect there are 2 things going on here. First, Duttons claim to have a reach into other markets, like SE Asia. Second, there is a much anticipated change in the law which, if stories are correct, will come in from the beginning of next year, which will allow cars to be imported with a lot more ease.

It's interesting how Duttons told me just how undesirable UK cars were and how little they wree worth, offering me $150k less for my 964RS and then kindly sharing their valuation with every known Porsche specialist - "have you been offered the red RS which we value at x because it is a dodgy UK import". Having done that, they then called me back to see if I had considered their offer which they were sure was fair and what others would pay.......

OK, here goes.  I'm sure that there were lots of people talking to you about your car. As I'm in the market for great cars like yours, I got calls from quite a few people shopping it to me and most in fact telling that it may be able to be bought for the 150 less than it was perhaps worth ....

I may also therefore have been one of those who low balled you.  And you may have, for good reason, told me to - as is your style - politely but firmly to think again.  It was clearly a great example and there was clearly also a bidding war going on.  Some subterfuge no doubt on all fronts by everyone involved.  It happens.

And for the seller, makes it a roller coaster especially when the car has a strong history with you and loads of previous ownership enjoyment.  

My Duttons experiences have been good.  I have sold to them.  It was my 95 RSCS.  Those who've read my other posts will know why I sold but in short, it was because I didn't enjoy the driving of it any longer as it was as raw as a newborns arse after an all day shitting fit. 

And there was the small matter of the money that was on offer.  I knew what I wanted and what it was worth.  Yes, they tried what all business people do and threw in a low number to see if I bit.  I respect the effort.  I also know they sold the car soon after fro about 20% more.  Good work boys.  Leveraging your network to take a quick profit.  The way of the world.  That's what specialist high end dealers do.

I've also looked at other cars in there (a lot) and yes, some of the prices asked are in my view on the heavy side but you know, I have a choice.  Jump in and push the ball around and see if we can come to a number or otherwise, politely say that the non prescription stuff they're on must be good and where do I get some.  They take it well.  As they should.  its nothing personal either way.   

I also just bought a car from them.  Its yellow.  I like yellow. I pick it up tomorrow. I know paid top $.  There are cars that are the "same" still on the market for 25-40% less than I paid.  I looked at them but Duttons had the best car, right history, great condition etc etc 

So, I'm disappointed you feel you had a bad experience.  Mine have been good.  Depends on who's RayBan's you're looking through. And on your perception of value and price - as they are not the same thing.

Interesting ^^ same orange creature that was there, when mine was there? ☺️ 

+ 1 on Rob. 

Could be ....!

Edited 14July, 2016 by Skidmarks

[turboT]

OK, here goes.  I'm sure that there were lots of people talking to you about your car. As I'm in the market for great cars like yours, I got a few calls from people shopping it to me  one in fact telling that it may be able to be bought for the 150 less than it was perhaps worth ....

I may also therefore have been one of those who low balled you.  And you may have, for good reason, told me to - as is your style - politely but firmly to think again.  It was clearly a great example and there was clearly also a bidding war going on.  Some subterfuge no doubt on all fronts by everyone involved.  It happens.

And for the seller, makes it a roller coaster especially when the car has a strong history with you and loads of previous ownership enjoyment.  

My Duttons experiences have been good.  I have sold to them.  It was my 95 RSCS.  Those who've read my other posts will know why I sold but in short, it was because I didn't enjoy the driving of it any longer as it was as raw as a newborns arse after an all day shitting fit. 

And there was the small matter of the money that was on offer.  I knew what I wanted and what it was worth.  Yes, they tried what all business people do and threw in a low number to see if I bit.  I respect the effort.  I also know they sold the car soon after fro about 20% more.  Good work boys.  Leveraging your network to take a quick profit.  The way of the world.  That's what specialist high end dealers do.

I've also looked at other cars in there (a lot) and yes, some of the prices asked are in my view on the heavy side but you know, I have a choice.  Jump in and push the ball around and see if we can come to a number or otherwise, politely say that the non prescription stuff they're on must be good and where do I get some.  They take it well.  As they should.  its nothing personal either way.   

I also just bought a car from them.  Its yellow.  I like yellow. I pick it up tomorrow. I know paid top $.  There are cars that are the "same" still on the market for 25-40% less than I paid.  I looked at them but Duttons had the best car, right history, great condition etc etc 

So, I'm disappointed you feel you had a bad experience.  Mine have been good.  Depends on who's RayBan's you're looking through. And on your perception of value and price - as they are not the same thing.

Could be ....!

that's the most comprehensive review of Duttons I've read. Interesting stuff. You must like yellow if you are buying at their rates  

[Skidmarks]

I do like yellow.  Bought a 996 TT from Rob in it and that set me off.

Yep, solid $ but when I reflected, it ticked my boxes including the value  - not making more, they were built in the Motorsport department, the first video I saw of it was the Porsche promo with Rohrl caning it was one in yellow. 

In the end, no purchase of a Porsche is a fully rational decision. Doesn't matter if it's 6000 or 600,000. They don't call us "enthusiasts" for nothing. 

I know the guys at Duttons about as well as I do all of the others in town. As my wife will attest, I've probably bought a car from most of them over the last 20+ years!!

I'm therefore highly irrational!!!

[turboT]

I do like yellow.  Bought a 996 TT from Rob in it and that set me off.

Yep, solid $ but when I reflected, it ticked my boxes including the value  - not making more, they were built in the Motorsport department, the first video I saw of it was the Porsche promo with Rohrl caning it was one in yellow. 

In the end, no purchase of a Porsche is a fully rational decision. Doesn't matter if it's 6000 or 600,000. They don't call us "enthusiasts" for nothing. 

I know the guys at Duttons about as well as I do all of the others in town. As my wife will attest, I've probably bought a car from most of them over the last 20+ years!!

I'm therefore highly irrational!!!

I saw the pic of your garage. Impressive stuff

[911sies]

 

 

So 9sies the Cayman engine IMS bearings after that engine number were rock solid?  Is that about Feb 2006?

Did the Cayman 3.4's suffer bore scouring issues at all?

I truly wish Autohaus would take that page down or at least edit out the errors to make it factual.  Severely compromises their credibility. 

 

Not rock solid Peter, but failures are super rare. The Autohaus comment on the factory-changed grease seals (on the bearing for the '06 onwards lumps) is accurate, I believe. It was the quiet fix that Porsche deployed after all the noise in the Porsche community about the whole IMS issue. That had the effect of improving lubrication and cooling but It also makes it very costly if you want to add the IMS fix. My IMS is as it came from the factory. I'm a gambler!.

As for bore scoring, I'm not up to speed with that, although Hartech in the UK sell a low temp thermostat to avoid it. I know it happened on 986's, not so sure on the 987s. 

Always willing to learn on this stuff, so what parts are Autohaus getting wrong?. 

Edited 14July, 2016 by 911sies

[hugh]

Yep, solid $ but when I reflected, it ticked my boxes including the value  - not making more, they were built in the Motorsport department, the first video I saw of it was the Porsche promo with Rohrl caning it was one in yellow. 

 

The Mk1?

[DJM]

 

 

Could be ....!

it's a PFA party at RSR - I had my 996GT2 in there, Edgy's blue 997 GT3 was there and an Orange 997 GT3 RS which I assume is now yours.  I like that car,all lairy orange with the orange cage and alcantara bits

i half heartedly asked Rob to swap it for mine....he must have liked your deal better.

[Skidmarks]

The Mk1?

Yes, that's the one.

it's a PFA party at RSR - I had my 996GT2 in there, Edgy's blue 997 GT3 was there and an Orange 997 GT3 RS which I assume is now yours.  I like that car,all lairy orange with the orange cage and alcantara bits

i half heartedly asked Rob to swap it for mine....he must have liked your deal better

What color is your GT2?  Yes, the RS is now with some new friends.  My deal involved the Kodak 81 930 and a 73 Targa.

[hugh]

Yes, that's the one.

Nice. 

[Pork Chops]

OK, here goes.  I'm sure that there were lots of people talking to you about your car. As I'm in the market for great cars like yours, I got calls from quite a few people shopping it to me and most in fact telling that it may be able to be bought for the 150 less than it was perhaps worth ....

I may also therefore have been one of those who low balled you.  And you may have, for good reason, told me to - as is your style - politely but firmly to think again.  It was clearly a great example and there was clearly also a bidding war going on.  Some subterfuge no doubt on all fronts by everyone involved.  It happens.

And for the seller, makes it a roller coaster especially when the car has a strong history with you and loads of previous ownership enjoyment.  

My Duttons experiences have been good.  I have sold to them.  It was my 95 RSCS.  Those who've read my other posts will know why I sold but in short, it was because I didn't enjoy the driving of it any longer as it was as raw as a newborns arse after an all day shitting fit. 

And there was the small matter of the money that was on offer.  I knew what I wanted and what it was worth.  Yes, they tried what all business people do and threw in a low number to see if I bit.  I respect the effort.  I also know they sold the car soon after fro about 20% more.  Good work boys.  Leveraging your network to take a quick profit.  The way of the world.  That's what specialist high end dealers do.

I've also looked at other cars in there (a lot) and yes, some of the prices asked are in my view on the heavy side but you know, I have a choice.  Jump in and push the ball around and see if we can come to a number or otherwise, politely say that the non prescription stuff they're on must be good and where do I get some.  They take it well.  As they should.  its nothing personal either way.   

I also just bought a car from them.  Its yellow.  I like yellow. I pick it up tomorrow. I know paid top $.  There are cars that are the "same" still on the market for 25-40% less than I paid.  I looked at them but Duttons had the best car, right history, great condition etc etc 

So, I'm disappointed you feel you had a bad experience.  Mine have been good.  Depends on who's RayBan's you're looking through. And on your perception of value and price - as they are not the same thing.

Could be ....!

Saw a nice yellow thing at Cairns on Monday so I'll assume that's yours?  Very nice.  Brand new looking really.  Speed Yellow is THE best colour IMHO and I sat in the Kodac 930 (closely supervised by Zig) as I was captivated by it.  Another awesome Porsche yellow.  

There is an unholy amount of whinging about Duttons in this thread...They're a car dealer who seek to make money from selling cars.  Buy low sell high.  Any big surprises there?  Don't like the buy price?  Sell privately or elsewhere.  Don't like the sell price?  Buy elsewhere.  Don't like the politics of a small niche market?  Go buy an HSV.

[Ozvino]

it's a PFA party at RSR - I had my 996GT2 in there, Edgy's blue 997 GT3 was there and an Orange 997 GT3 RS which I assume is now yours.  I like that car,all lairy orange with the orange cage and alcantara bits

i half heartedly asked Rob to swap it for mine....he must have liked your deal better.

bought my GT3 from Rob

[edgy]

it's a PFA party at RSR - I had my 996GT2 in there, Edgy's blue 997 GT3 was there and an Orange 997 GT3 RS which I assume is now yours.  I like that car,all lairy orange with the orange cage and alcantara bits

i half heartedly asked Rob to swap it for mine....he must have liked your deal better.

Definitely, his showroom was looking awesome earlier this year ^^ full of GT cars. 

Yes, that's the one.

What color is your GT2?  Yes, the RS is now with some new friends.  My deal involved the Kodak 81 930 and a 73 Targa.

Did you ever know that your my hero? 

[michel]

 

There is an unholy amount of whinging about Duttons in this thread...  Don't like the politics of a small niche market?  Go buy an HSV

and you reckon PFA are a pack of marked down pork chops.

 

Did you ever know that your my hero? 

I won't tell tom 

[edgy]

I won't tell tom 

It's going to take more than a dirty LHD import to win my heart! 

[ANF]

Cheapish 928 S4 http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-928-1987/SSE-AD-4151639/?Cr=0

Looks damn nice!! "There are a couple of minor issues that could still be addressed to make this car perfect" and if they are small could well be a bargain!

[Jason E]

Cheapish 928 S4 http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-928-1987/SSE-AD-4151639/?Cr=0

Looks damn nice!! "There are a couple of minor issues that could still be addressed to make this car perfect" and if they are small could well be a bargain!

agreed - very nice indeed.

[ANF]

agreed - very nice indeed.

Perfect car for you Jason!!

[Mike D'Silva]

Sorry to drag the thread down to the level of talking about a Boxster  but any thoughts on this... I like pretty much everything (S, interesting colour, manual, low k) but wonder if there's a lot to be said for holding out and finding a 3.4?

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/_/OAG-AD-13021019

Here is a nice boxster S

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-4082707

[ANF]

Nice looking Boxster there ‌@Mike D'Silva

How cheap does a dealer need to buy a 996 at to seel for $28K!!?? Alternatively why would someone sell a 966 so cheap? Especially if it does have "FULL SERVICE HISTORY"?? http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/ottoway/cars-vans-utes/1998-porsche-911-carrera-carrera-5-speed-tiptronic-coupe/1110031720

$28k for a 996, really....

 

[Mike D'Silva]

20-22k

[edgy]

Nice looking Boxster there ‌@Mike D'Silva

How cheap does a dealer need to buy a 996 at to seel for $28K!!?? Alternatively why would someone sell a 966 so cheap? Especially if it does have "FULL SERVICE HISTORY"?? http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/ottoway/cars-vans-utes/1998-porsche-911-carrera-carrera-5-speed-tiptronic-coupe/1110031720

$28k for a 996, really....

 

 

That would be a nice daily drive! I like the first year 996 Carreras.. something charming about them, like its a friendly looking car? Maybe I watched Cars too much when my son was little! 

 

Edited 15July, 2016 by edgy

[ANF]

 

That would be a nice daily drive! I like the first year 996 Carreras.. something charming about them, like its a friendly looking car? Maybe I watched Cars too much when my son was little! 

 

I like them too, for me it is how the 996 was intended and anything else seems like a "knee jerk" reaction to try to "fix" it. Nothing wrong with it in my eyes

Only thing better would be a series 1 996 GT3

Yes I have watched cars a few times too (5 y.o. )

Edited 15July, 2016 by ANF

[Hughesy]

I like them too, for me it is how the 996 was intended and anything seems like a "knee jerk" reaction to try to "fix" it. Nothing wrong with it in my eyes

Only thing better would be a series 1 996 GT3

 

or a fat arse C4S

[Jason E]

Perfect car for you Jason!!

Possibly Adam,

I think the V8 is too much car for me at the moment Adam.  I do have a couple of irons in the front engine fire at the moment.  All secret squirrel at the minute.  Hoping, hoping.