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On 18/02/2023 at 06:25, t888 said:

So while we're doing calculus, what's this 996tt tiptronic cab worth?  The ad doesn't say whether it's an import or not (vin seems to decode to europe market?)

Currently up at $108k after a few price drops.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2003-porsche-911-turbo-996-auto-awd-my04/SSE-AD-13778121/?Cr=0

I reckon you can be guided by one my first posts back in 2016 which was a bit of a thesis length wise . Flame suit was on  back then when opining on what  a specific model of  996 turbo in Silver was worth back t h en.  You would want to garage that cab assuming not AU delivered  and have 5k to spend on it for must do's for an all in outlay not exceeding  5 figures as I see it. Garage cost is purchase price, plus shipping to garage, plus stamp duty plus rego Plus insurance.

On a 996 turbo need 5k irrespective of 160k or 16k travelled.  Need to spend dollars on aged rubber bits to tighten it up and a bit of some  preventative maintenance on boost piping  rubber, plus a major service from your indi even if one was apparently done a month ago.  On that one you would want to fit in a markski  ecu tune and tranny tweak and some borrowing of  mercedes  parts to save numbing your thumbs.    Just a view but from a butt dyno perpective standout is a third gear pull on a 996 turbo.   But  maxing out at the stock 0.7bar vs seeing at least 1.0 bar of boost based on a bit of ecu tweaking is  akin to buying a 996 gt3 and not seeing t h e tacho every go over 3500 rpm.   Whats the point of owning a mezger and not experiencing what their capable of every now and then on your watch

 

 

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On 18/02/2023 at 09:25, t888 said:

So while we're doing calculus, what's this 996tt tiptronic cab worth?  The ad doesn't say whether it's an import or not (vin seems to decode to europe market?)

Currently up at $108k after a few price drops.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2003-porsche-911-turbo-996-auto-awd-my04/SSE-AD-13778121/?Cr=0

$98k now!

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On 14/02/2023 at 21:27, smit2100 said:

You sure that will sell at that price.  What happened to your anything over 150k for a manual 997 turbo is unrealistic in order for some movement to happen. Is that a typo in the ad  and its a manual not a tipper.  

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/porsche-911-2007/sse-ad-14256047/?utm_campaign=hold-alert&utm_source=notification-centre&utm_medium=browser-push-notification&csn_atid=29368374-04bb-4dc5-a83c-886958265d16

 

dark blue 997 turbo withdrawn, last price was $162K i think

prob sold for ?$150-160K??

 

realistically priced cars sell

 

prices falling isnce 1/2023 - good for prospective buyers

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21 hours ago, 911virgin said:

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/porsche-911-2007/sse-ad-14256047/?utm_campaign=hold-alert&utm_source=notification-centre&utm_medium=browser-push-notification&csn_atid=29368374-04bb-4dc5-a83c-886958265d16

 

dark blue 997 turbo withdrawn, last price was $162K i think

prob sold for ?$150-160K??

 

realistically priced cars sell

 

prices falling isnce 1/2023 - good for prospective buyers

This is its 2nd time being withdrawn / on hold in the last 3 weeks.... See if it actually disappears this time....

There is 3 x 6 speed coupes for sale right now first time in years.....

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5 hours ago, 911virgin said:

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/porsche-911-2007/sse-ad-14256047/?utm_campaign=hold-alert&utm_source=notification-centre&utm_medium=browser-push-notification&csn_atid=29368374-04bb-4dc5-a83c-886958265d16

 

dark blue 997 turbo withdrawn, last price was $162K i think

prob sold for ?$150-160K??

 

realistically priced cars sell

 

prices falling isnce 1/2023 - good for prospective buyers

With all due respect you seem to  have the view that there is zero premium difference between an  auto and a manual with an extra pedal.  Some buyers won't touch a auto and if history is a guide, since I have kept a keen eye on 996 /997.1 turbo prices since 2015, there has always been a premium for a manual over an auto  like for like condition.  So I am seeing three manuals on  car sales at the moment(  non auto's)  and the asking is no way near  your 150k realistic pricing for a Manual.    Eg I am seeing askings of circa   299k, 250k, 250k. Unlike yourself not at all surprised with their initial asking.  Will they sell  at  those askings.  I suspect  not.   Would they sell at 150k absolutely . Will the sellers let them go at 150k, absolutely not in my view if  inferior condition wise auto's are going for 160, 150, 140, 130, 120. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, smit2100 said:

With all due respect you seem to  have the view that there is zero premium difference between an  auto and a manual with an extra pedal.  Some buyers won't touch a auto and if history is a guide, since I have kept a keen eye on 996 /997.1 turbo prices since 2015, there has always been a premium for a manual over an auto  like for like condition.  So I am seeing three manuals on  car sales at the moment(  non auto's)  and the asking is no way near  your 150k realistic pricing for a Manual.    Eg I am seeing askings of circa   299k, 250k, 250k. Unlike yourself not at all surprised with their initial asking.  Will they sell  at  those askings.  I suspect  not.   Would they sell at 150k absolutely . Will the sellers let them go at 150k, absolutely not in my view if  inferior condition wise auto's are going for 160, 150, 140, 130, 120. 

 

 

For some reason people seem to think I think manual 997.1 turbos are worth around $150k.

I'm not sure if something I wrote has got lost in translation .

My opinion is that tiptronic 997.1 turbos would sell quickly in that price range.

Manual 911's have historically always commanded a hefty premium over tips across all series from 964 onwards......

Jeez, even a 911 virgin knows that!🤷

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14 hours ago, smit2100 said:

With all due respect you seem to  have the view that there is zero premium difference between an  auto and a manual with an extra pedal.  Some buyers won't touch a auto and if history is a guide, since I have kept a keen eye on 996 /997.1 turbo prices since 2015, there has always been a premium for a manual over an auto  like for like condition.  So I am seeing three manuals on  car sales at the moment(  non auto's)  and the asking is no way near  your 150k realistic pricing for a Manual.    Eg I am seeing askings of circa   299k, 250k, 250k. Unlike yourself not at all surprised with their initial asking.  Will they sell  at  those askings.  I suspect  not.   Would they sell at 150k absolutely . Will the sellers let them go at 150k, absolutely not in my view if  inferior condition wise auto's are going for 160, 150, 140, 130, 120. 

 

 

I think your pricing is more in line with 996 rather than 997.1 to be fair.... 996 tips are creeping towards 100k (I know, not there yet but sitting in the teens) in coupe and starting to dip under $100k in cab! Pre covid they got as low is around $80k

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6 hours ago, JLD said:

I think your pricing is more in line with 996 rather than 997.1 to be fair.... 996 tips are creeping towards 100k (I know, not there yet but sitting in the teens) in coupe and starting to dip under $100k in cab! Pre covid they got as low is around $80k

If I remember  correctly @SM1000put out that he could get a turbo for a 100k and succeed in the challenge a few years ago now but ;)

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On 27/02/2023 at 19:20, 911virgin said:

For some reason people seem to think I think manual 997.1 turbos are worth around $150k.

I'm not sure if something I wrote has got lost in translation .

My opinion is that tiptronic 997.1 turbos would sell quickly in that price range.

Manual 911's have historically always commanded a hefty premium over tips across all series from 964 onwards......

Jeez, even a 911 virgin knows that!🤷

What lost in terms of translation below.  Mention of one at 150k at duttons, but  no mention of auto vs manual, no mention condition to support that  keys were changing hands on manuals at that pricing of 150k.  

That said I will eat a small piece of humble pie.  I did see a 997.1 silver Manual on Facebook market place a couple  of days ago with a asking price starting with a 1 and km's travelled starting with a 1 and over 5 digits.   But at  circa 197.5k its closer to 200k than 150k.   Just a view, the other 3 look look  a bit peachier and I can appreciate them  asking for more as they are all not alike.  Having had cracks at outlier ( usually private)  997.1 turbos way back on a couple of manuals, bit of luck required as well.   Eg your competing with other like minded buyers eye balling the car within 1 hour of the private ad  being placed and its an unconditional offer or theres non risk averse buyers  ( no ppi) from interstate offering overs and sight unseen  within the hour.

 

  On 09/02/2023 at 13:49, on_booost said:

LOL,

Even in 2017/18 there were exactly zero 997 TT around $100K.

If that was the case - what's a 996 turbo worth? $70K???? NO chance!

true, prepandemic, 997.1 turbo were selling at lows of $150k in 2081/19............i remember Dutton sold a white 997.1 turbo with 70000kms for around $150k 2018/19

 

im just stating what i think they are worth and the price theyd move very quickly at

 

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9 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior77 said:

I went and had a look at it when it was just listed, before photos were up. They were asking $140k which I figured meant it must be beyond immaculate ... It was not... Probably been detailed since but it didn't look like a well loved example to me. Mind you I just walked around it quickly.

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31 minutes ago, JWM said:

They were asking $140k

It's 126K now which is not bad at all for a 997.  The cheapest one i recall was in 2020 at $80K but it had a tonne of KM on it.  All the others were about $100K then.  So $126K is a good buy I reckon.  But those 3.8L engines are a bit hit and miss from my armchair opinion and makes me wonder given it didn't look well-loved as you say in the first walk-around.

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27 minutes ago, CapnHyaku said:

It's 126K now which is not bad at all for a 997.  The cheapest one i recall was in 2020 at $80K but it had a tonne of KM on it.  All the others were about $100K then.  So $126K is a good buy I reckon.  But those 3.8L engines are a bit hit and miss from my armchair opinion and makes me wonder given it didn't look well-loved as you say in the first walk-around.

I see there is a  996 Turbo in Geelong for $120K  with 145 ks on F/B

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