Diamond911 Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 This certainly is an interesting proposition. Assume it is a LHD convert at that price but either way, certainly a good $15-$20k to what they have been selling for.Beware, I was totally screwed over by these people tonight re the 86 Targa in Perth on Gumtree for $40K. They totally reneged on the deal.I spoke to them during the day to confirm some details and drove through 1.5hrs of peak hour traffic tonight after work to inspect the car and do the deal. The car was a bit rough around the edges however it drove OK and I thought $40k was fair enough for its condition. We agreed on the $40K pending a PPI tomorrow night (at their house), shook hands with both husband and wife and they agreed and gave me their word to take it off the market. I went inside and they started making me coffee in the kitchen and we were about to write up a receipt of agreement. To save time I said while they did that I would drive to the nearest servo and get $1K deposit for them. On the way back from the servo they rang me and said they have been offered significantly more over the phone. I returned to their place $1K in hand and they reneged on the deal and said due to the stress of so many phone calls they are taking the car off the market. I expressed my total disappointment of them going back on their world and their gentleman's hand shake, but there was not much I could do about it.My inspection:It's a UK personal import, imported in 1994. The targa top whistles very loudly above 40km/hr and needs new rubbers and reupholstering. There were two rust spots evident on the car, one below the front window/front windscreen wiper cowl panel, and one on the bottom of the passenger door. There was also minor bubbling over the passenger rear guard as well. Interior was missing a few buttons here and there on the dash such as the vent buttons. The engine bay was very dirty and neglected. It has 17" replica Fuchs (Rota Fox). It appears the car was resprayed during its life but in the original colour of black. The 915 gearbox felt pretty sloppy but I'm used to a G50 so it's probably normal.It has the original UK logbook and stamps in the UK up until 1994 when it was a personal import to Australia. Receipts in the logbook continued in Australia including many Ktek services in Perth. What I couldn't work out was the low odo km's. The stamps in the log book seemed to flow (both in the UK and AUS) to match up with the ODO, but this isn't reflected in the rough condition of the car. I've seen posts above about a speedo swap with a 930 but not sure how this fits in with the stamps in the book.Anyway, I'm just disappointed that people's word and handshake isn't what it used to be. And for wasting a better part of half of my day and night. poli84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 True not many spit before shaking...big mistake and hard lesson was not having the money in the hand on arrival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 Thats dirty pool mate. Bet they ring you to make a counter offer above the other one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 Well , I'm sorry to hear that familiar tale again. But the new owner may find some $ surprises. Rust under windscreen ain't good. So lads , what's the market value of a somewhat rough UK import targa now? 50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 (edited) Might still be a value proposition. I went to buy an 82turbo last year. It was mid way through the PPI on the mechanics hoist when I get a call saying he'd sold it to someone else. Asked him to pay for the PPI, politely told him I had better things to do with my time as did the mechanics. What can you do Edited 16March, 2016 by michel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 That's just shit form, seems to be common in the current market.... Ask me how I know. ? clutch-monkey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 (edited) This type of uneithical behaviour is creeping in to every day life , gone are the days of a deal done with a beer and handshake are long gone. Edited 17March, 2016 by tomo LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-banger Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 It's not nice and nobody wants this to happen to them, but unfortunately this is human nature.When it's a buyers market it is also quite common for buyers to screw sellers around too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond911 Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 (edited) This type of uneithical behaviour is creeping in to every day life , gone are the days of a deal done with a beer and hankshake are long gone. So true unfortunately. I'm a man of my word and naively assume that others are too at times I guess. Edited 16March, 2016 by Diamond911 tomo, Ozvino, MFX and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 2 - 0 to people who take deposits and I dont get the cars ..My last journey was after an owner taking a 10k Deposit and the other the most famous of them all the Minerva Blue turbo ..that guys got the most stories and dance moves than anyone I know. He sold that car to 5 owners at one point .I have also dealt with high up members of the P-Car club and also someone who I eventually tracked on Linked- in as a Vice presdent of a large company who stiffed me. Wallet mayhem leaves little space for respectfull business in Pcar business transactions and we used to think the used car dealers were sharks….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 (edited) It's not nice and nobody wants this to happen to them, but unfortunately this is human nature.When it's a buyers market it is also quite common for buyers to screw sellers around too.I do not know about human nature banger I think it is always your choice to be a prick in these things Edited 16March, 2016 by tomo webrest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 When it's a buyers market it is also quite common for buyers to screw sellers around too.I think the buyers market is pulling into the station for a little rest , along with the gravy train.Maybe we should all come back to sticking to our guns , value our money and stop bidding on cars sight unseen.I certainly have stopped , missed a few deals but there you go..Im sure i have saved mself a lot of drama , if you cant trust em with your money , how can you trust what they say about the car ?? clutch-monkey, AMG and Fraz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond911 Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 if you cant trust em with yoru money , how can you trust what they say about the car ??yep, this was my exact perspective waking up this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli84 Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 Sorry to hear about your experience Diamond911, thanks for reporting back with your tales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 16March, 2016 Report Share Posted 16March, 2016 I have also dealt with high up members of the P-Car clubOMG you are famous!!! The NSW mob? michel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 17March, 2016 Report Share Posted 17March, 2016 But the new owner may find some $ surprises. Rust under windscreen ain't good. From what I have seen on a couple of cars I have looked at, rust on the scuttle (?) below the windscreen can mean rust at the bottom of the A pillars behind the carpet where it meets the sills, and also on the floor behind the pedals. Always check those areas when looking at these cars, so pull up the carpet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 17March, 2016 Report Share Posted 17March, 2016 yep, this was my exact perspective waking up this morning. Its been said many times before, your not buying the car - your buying the owner. If you can determine who has been looking after the car (even better if they are a reputable shop) you can pretty quickly qualify the car and owner. Not everyone is out to do the wrong thing, people can just get greedy and make bad judgement as a result. Its a shame but I guess some people need the money more than others and some people can afford to give it away..................I'm sure another one will come along Diamond - hang in there! 911barber, symsy and firstone 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 17March, 2016 Report Share Posted 17March, 2016 If you're prepared to offer a private seller more than the last guy he spoke to then you're part of the problem. Gazumpmanship works four ways....Just sayin' symsy and GC9911 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch-monkey Posted 17March, 2016 Report Share Posted 17March, 2016 If you're prepared to offer a private seller more than the last guy he spoke to then you're part of the problem. Gazumpmanship works four ways....Just sayin'i prefer to pay less than the last guy he spoke to KGB, symsy and tk111 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 17March, 2016 Report Share Posted 17March, 2016 (edited) Really? That's sooo contrary to the vibe brother. Edited 17March, 2016 by KGB symsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFX Posted 17March, 2016 Report Share Posted 17March, 2016 I don't like to be gazumped either, but I have no problem with offering a seller more than the other guy if it is still a good deal for me, and then I do my best to wrap the deal up as soon as I can.For me if I am selling, when I have a deposit in my hand then I consider what I am selling is off the market, and I have not accepted better offers in the past because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 17March, 2016 Report Share Posted 17March, 2016 Seems like you may have dodged a bullet if the rust could be worse than plain sight.Nothing wrong with rust if you are equipped to deal with it and are aware of just how bad it is.My rust repair days are behind me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevMcRev Posted 17March, 2016 Report Share Posted 17March, 2016 (edited) 2005 996 Turbo S with 13,550 klms for $140KIF 996tt's are ever going to be worth anything this is the one to have if the difference between an S and non-S in a 993 is to go by.@smit2100 Not sure if you have any data/vibes on these trading hands...last I recall was the white one about 18 months - 2 years ago....If I were shopping I'd be seriously looking at this car.http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-3917650?WT.seg_4 Edited 17March, 2016 by TrevMcRev Blue964 and ByronBayChris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted 17March, 2016 Report Share Posted 17March, 2016 74 Targa on carsales US converted car http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-1974/SSE-AD-3919995/?Cr=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 17March, 2016 Report Share Posted 17March, 2016 (edited) Tomo this yours liking the interior scheme http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/brunswick/cars-vans-utes/1985-toyota-mr2-aw11/1104937302 Edited 17March, 2016 by michel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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