Whats for sale (in Australia ) and interesting Thread

[Russ]

7 hours ago, cafe_racer said:

One that I find odd are the ads with LHD to RHD conversion cars. They always seem to have “professional LHD to RHD conversion”. Is there any other kind? Maybe people used to do this in backyards in the 80’s. 

yeah they did, with RHS bits of steel making up steering rack mounts, and cut and hacked bits (like that picture posted)

the 'professional' ones i've seen had lots of hours sunk in, drilling all the spot welds, welding in the proper RHD trunk floor, even down to putting the factory finish over seems and spotwelds. 

[on_booost]

1 hour ago, sleazius said:

Its not so much that it is a POS if not factory, moreso you need to ask questions. The 80s was the wild west for 911 modification. Then you've got that 996 Frankenstein from a few posts ago where the genuine question is why?

In regards to values, these AC price rises are off the hook, it can be easy to be dismissive of them and stick with values from three years ago. Simple fact is most of these cars were roughly the same value plus or minus $15k for 10 years prior to the recent run-up.

I hear you (and agree - anyone remember Mosman Autos....???) - however we were talking about a particular car - one that was built by Ron Goodman, who, is hardly a cowboy........ (wild west reference) and i agree in regards to that (IMO) dogs breakfast of a 996......

The prices are off the hook - and if we all had a wayback machine......

We are talking today, 2021, post Covid etc..... these ARE the prices no matter how much we wish they weren't......

[LeeM]

4 hours ago, Shedpest said:

@LeeM picture looks like it was pre-guard rail interaction

 Post-guard rail mate 😁

 You'll notice the paint is one colour down this side, yet you can still see the dings in the rims if you look closely 

[LeeM]

3 hours ago, on_booost said:

Lee, 

Looks pretty nice - a backdate yeah? I like it!!

My point was that healthy discussion is fine - but the " if its not factory its a POS" is what I don't get ?

Yours isn't factory but do you care? Do you like it?

The term "AC" is a broad one - and covers a LOT of cars. I was trying to prove a point - I have ZERO skin in the game, but baseless comments like " its barely worth half" are exactly that - baseless.

 Yeah I backdated it myself mate. Cost was $2500 and a few days, yet I sold the original bits for $3000, so I came out in front there 😁 Then of course I stuffed it into a guard rail as @Shedpest so kindly mentioned (🖕), yet it came back to me in better condition than it was, so it was meant to happen 😅

 Yeah love my car, and no I don't care it's not factory, as I don't like impact bumpers yet can't afford a real longhood, so a backdate is the next best thing to me, which was my sole intention from the day I bought it. I drive the shit out of it rain or shine, tarmac or dirt, stone chips and all and it doesn't bother me at all, as that's why I own it...to drive. Well, maybe not the last 6 months, but I did nearly every weekend for 5 years 😁

 I'll also mention that even though I'm not in the financial stability of most Porsche owners, I really don't care what it's worth. Yeah it's nice that it's jumped up 30-40-50% in value, but that comes a very distant 2nd as to why I own it. I get a buzz just looking at it in the shed! 

 Yeah I get what you mean mate, and my reply to you above was just me being a smartarse as usual, as that's my sense of humour, so it was just me taking the piss for a Iaugh.

 The converted cab isn't for everyone, yet there's someone out there who thinks it's the mutts nuts, which is great that they might be able to get into their dream car like I have. I don't think it's a POS and worth half the asking price, and anyone half knowledgeable in Porscheland knows it isn't either, yet what it IS worth is only what someone is prepared to pay for it. If it sells for the asking or close to it, and even though it's had a shitload spent on it, someone is getting a good car at a reasonable price considering what's been done to it. Would I buy it if I was in the market at that price range or even $80k? No I wouldn't, as it's not my cup of tea, yet as I mentioned above, it is to someone

4 hours ago, OBRUT said:

Careful what you wish for…

I might even get the Ronals repaired at that price mate 😁 

3 hours ago, Rick V said:

That’d get you into a very nice 996 😜

So would $60k 😅 I'll pass for now thanks Rick 😁

[Schnell]

Okay, so maybe my 'half' was exaggerated but I certainly would pay that for it. I meant for of the fact that in the current market, anything modified and non Aus seems to sit for a long time, especially if it's in the triple figures. I know this has been done by a renowned specialist but it's still a wild west (as so aptly stated) style car in a market that holds Aus delivered cars (especially coupes) on a pedestal. I just don't see it moving at that price, with engine/box rebuild or not. 

There are sub $100k cars out there, I've been offered a few well below that, albeit either RHD imports or conversions. The market is hyper-inflated and asking prices are eye watering but a lot of those cars don't go for what they are asking for. Anyways, that is the point of this thread, to discuss and speculate values. 

[symsy]

1 hour ago, LeeM said:

 Yeah I backdated it myself mate. Cost was $2500 and a few days, yet I sold the original bits for $3000, so I came out in front there 😁 Then of course I stuffed it into a guard rail as @Shedpest so kindly mentioned (🖕), yet it came back to me in better condition than it was, so it was meant to happen 😅

 Yeah love my car, and no I don't care it's not factory, as I don't like impact bumpers yet can't afford a real longhood, so a backdate is the next best thing to me, which was my sole intention from the day I bought it. I drive the shit out of it rain or shine, tarmac or dirt, stone chips and all and it doesn't bother me at all, as that's why I own it...to drive. Well, maybe not the last 6 months, but I did nearly every weekend for 5 years 😁

 I'll also mention that even though I'm not in the financial stability of most Porsche owners, I really don't care what it's worth. Yeah it's nice that it's jumped up 30-40-50% in value, but that comes a very distant 2nd as to why I own it. I get a buzz just looking at it in the shed! 

 Yeah I get what you mean mate, and my reply to you above was just me being a smartarse as usual, as that's my sense of humour, so it was just me taking the piss for a Iaugh.

 The converted cab isn't for everyone, yet there's someone out there who thinks it's the mutts nuts, which is great that they might be able to get into their dream car like I have. I don't think it's a POS and worth half the asking price, and anyone half knowledgeable in Porscheland knows it isn't either, yet what it IS worth is only what someone is prepared to pay for it. If it sells for the asking or close to it, and even though it's had a shitload spent on it, someone is getting a good car at a reasonable price considering what's been done to it. Would I buy it if I was in the market at that price range or even $80k? No I wouldn't, as it's not my cup of tea, yet as I mentioned above, it is to someone

Let me help you fellow forum punters out ..

If the slant front didnt have the lights out of a plastic Lotus Eclat,  it would be very near to authentic, its nearly pure German engineering.  The paint looks good and I reckon the conversion couldnt be half as bad as similar SLR5000 aussie enhancements . 

The Miami vice interior also has a lot of virtue on many levels , lets be speculative here if vacuumed carefully  it might yield some revenue in the hepa filter of your Dyson , the white powder is like 300 or is it 400 a gram now days... anyway a lot of peeps have been in lock down and wont know the difference at the bar over the holidays .

@on_booost I know you are very masterful with the vacuum I have seen the photos  and  I agree based on our offline exchange this is a perfect match for the Bondi Porsche set and the cars and coffee meet.    Im with you you cant buy Fuch all for a Hunge now days ..

Reminder to all those newbies on this page and forum .. most Porsche Wankers  are liars as are most sellers. Some of us have T-shirts to warn you of our intoxicating wordsmithing on the forum pages.  I do ..

Remember you have to step away from the iPad and your comments hold little or no credibility especially without spelling mistakes like mine and if your not renowned for your leg action and only finger typing skills .. that isnt gonna get you far.

By the sound of the comments here most of you have no idea about wheels and tyres and the measure of a quality of a car like that Slanty .  For Fuchs sake learn  to tyre kick , I mean go look at the wheels on the Slanty , you are outta lockdown , I would love to give them a good belt with good shoes on.. they must be like 5k ..plus rubber.

So @LeeM I do think it is really time you came in from the AC drought .     I woulda commented more on your cool use of the POS acronym but I dont know what that means .. its some kinda Pcar talk that never got to my level of Street .. you maybe from the ghetto mate but the Gutter and the tyre walls and tyre kicking are my domain.

Let me help you out , cos most of these folks wouldn't know value if it bit them in the arse ..

Talking of Arse .. Backdate my arse... 

This car is not a pure backdate, it has lots of future tech by my reckoning ... Sikaflex , Latest stainless not cadmium plate fasteners and plastidip and more...and as you transparently shared .. half new paint tech

Its even got a cup holder,  I believe somewhere documented in the build thread , that's a Mod not a backdate.. they didnt have tall lattes back then 

It does probably does have genuine vintage dust , as the you wouldn't have never vacuumed it.

So lurkers and couch referees come down on the pitch of life , play with the foreigners , its a new world of diversity and we live in a land of new cultures fused together.  Give a dirty import a try,  I suggest that if you dont buy,  you will continue you sit in regrets ,  cos they will only go up like a little bit,  like 70% of the astronomical  Porsche bubble gains that the rest of the cars have gone up. in this past two years. 

So I speak wisdom, If you see me out , I have a few lines on my face , they are mainly from laughter,  the deeper ones in my brow are the are the WTF lines , the ones that have been accompanied by the typing on this forum in times gone,  comments like "Worlds Gone Mad!"    but the world goes on and the numbers get bigger , Fuch me even Bit coins on its 15th rise and fall 

So  viewers if you got Retro dollars in the bank, cos I cant imagine the Slanty on consignment or Lee will offer finance deals  Go for it . Get your Hunge fly to Adelaide or fly to Sydney and Buy Buy Buy ,  if you dont you your mad  cos in a years time,  you might just might look back in this page and the squealing in ya mind, will be stronger that the fan belt noise cos they will probably be $150k and the fact that it arrived like my unloved low KMs  964 Targa on a boat with its nearby brothers from the JDM marketplace wont matter.

With my expert eye on wheels and tyres the wheels on Lees car are Not Ronald MCdonald ones ones ... they are Ronals

Anyone got anything else they wanna sell , I like to see people get gifts for Christmas

PS @LeeM if you sell , you owe me a slab and a new pair of trainers and a vintage Porsche Wanker shirt ...signed ..

 

[OBRUT]

27 minutes ago, Schnell said:

Okay, so maybe my 'half' was exaggerated but I certainly would pay that for it. I meant for of the fact that in the current market, anything modified and non Aus seems to sit for a long time, especially if it's in the triple figures. I know this has been done by a renowned specialist but it's still a wild west (as so aptly stated) style car in a market that holds Aus delivered cars (especially coupes) on a pedestal. I just don't see it moving at that price, with engine/box rebuild or not. 

There are sub $100k cars out there, I've been offered a few well below that, albeit either RHD imports or conversions. The market is hyper-inflated and asking prices are eye watering but a lot of those cars don't go for what they are asking for. Anyways, that is the point of this thread, to discuss and speculate values. 

So what is your preferred ac spec and budget?  Let everyone know, you might just flush out a seller…

[symsy]

40 minutes ago, Schnell said:

Okay, so maybe my 'half' was exaggerated but I certainly would pay that for it. I meant for of the fact that in the current market, anything modified and non Aus seems to sit for a long time, especially if it's in the triple figures. I know this has been done by a renowned specialist but it's still a wild west (as so aptly stated) style car in a market that holds Aus delivered cars (especially coupes) on a pedestal. I just don't see it moving at that price, with engine/box rebuild or not. 

There are sub $100k cars out there, I've been offered a few well below that, albeit either RHD imports or conversions. The market is hyper-inflated and asking prices are eye watering but a lot of those cars don't go for what they are asking for. Anyways, that is the point of this thread, to discuss and speculate values. 

Spill the beans , we all want an off market bargain    As they say one mans trash is another mans treasure . Unless its a ex-wife or two or is that three , Im terrible with numbers  , then normally they are considered the trash you might have wanted to get rid of but or post wallet removal trash as they normally leave with the treasure and your hard earned coin and you end up paying 1.5 times the value of your car .. My Turbo has outlived all my serous relationships and owes me a fricken fortune, thank god its not an Import.

7 minutes ago, OBRUT said:

So what is your preferred ac spec and budget?  Let everyone know, you might just flush out a seller…

You are waiting for him to say Borbets or Purple , I know you .. waiting to pounce and peddle one of your exotic expressions 

[OBRUT]

2 minutes ago, symsy said:

 

You are waiting for him to say Borbets or Purple , I know you .. waiting to pounce and peddle one of your exotic expressions 

Ha!  

I’m pretty sure I did once let him know about a 3.2 coupe a mate was selling (sadly lacking both Borbets and purple hues) but never heard boo back. 

[Schnell]

3 minutes ago, OBRUT said:

Ha!  

I’m pretty sure I did once let him know about a 3.2 coupe a mate was selling (sadly lacking both Borbets and purple hues) but never heard boo back. 

Oh I must apologise that I had never replied! As I tell my other half, it was my intention to, honest, and that still counts right? haha. Did he sell it in the end? 

And @symsy thanks for giving me a few laughs today, your poetic delivery of insider knowledge is impeccable.

[MR901]

Having sold two very good cars during Covid I suspect most real world selling prices are nowhere near the asking prices on the internet. I started my 71T & Aussie delivered 3.2 at around 125k. Both excellent registered cars with history / no rust / RWC & both took a couple of months to move. Lot's of people will say "wow, that's cheap, I would have paid that in a heartbeat" BUT when it comes to actually transferring the funds the crowd thins very quickly !! I'm bemused to see numerous cars that were on Carsales at around 125k when I sold mine that are still listed BUT now 150k+.......I don't even look at Porsche's for sale anymore as I find the combination of asking price, quality & attitude of sellers delusional. But then I don't understand the value of crypto, NFT's or pork belly futures either so maybe it's me....ha ha

[LeeM]

 Aaaah @symsy Always the voice or reason...or something 😅

 And yes they are Ronal P9 rims, and yes they are very rare to be seen on a 911, so let's start the auction at...ooh...say $3500?  No lowballing, as I know what I have mate 😉😁 

[mc968cs]

19 minutes ago, MR901 said:

Having sold two very good cars during Covid I suspect most real world selling prices are nowhere near the asking prices on the internet. I started my 71T & Aussie delivered 3.2 at around 125k. Both excellent registered cars with history / no rust / RWC & both took a couple of months to move. Lot's of people will say "wow, that's cheap, I would have paid that in a heartbeat" BUT when it comes to actually transferring the funds the crowd thins very quickly !! I'm bemused to see numerous cars that were on Carsales at around 125k when I sold mine that are still listed BUT now 150k+.......I don't even look at Porsche's for sale anymore as I find the combination of asking price, quality & attitude of sellers delusional. But then I don't understand the value of crypto, NFT's or pork belly futures either so maybe it's me....ha ha

It’s a fascinating medium carsales and Porsches.  I have literally bought, used, sold multiple Porsches over the last 5 years or so and see some cars from when I was looking a ‘couple of Porsches ago’ still listed.  If that makes sense!
 

I’ve concluded that for many of the listing of Porsches on carsales the only sale will be the one by carsales for the add…..

[symsy]

36 minutes ago, MR901 said:

Having sold two very good cars during Covid I suspect most real world selling prices are nowhere near the asking prices on the internet. I started my 71T & Aussie delivered 3.2 at around 125k. Both excellent registered cars with history / no rust / RWC & both took a couple of months to move. Lot's of people will say "wow, that's cheap, I would have paid that in a heartbeat" BUT when it comes to actually transferring the funds the crowd thins very quickly !! I'm bemused to see numerous cars that were on Carsales at around 125k when I sold mine that are still listed BUT now 150k+.......I don't even look at Porsche's for sale anymore as I find the combination of asking price, quality & attitude of sellers delusional. But then I don't understand the value of crypto, NFT's or pork belly futures either so maybe it's me....ha ha

Ok 125k for the GT3 .. post your bank account details , I will send ya a pack of Bacon so you can make a roll whilst you count it .   I couldnt agree more , buy to bullshit you will buy ratios have gone through the roof along with prices..   

Cock on the block and cash in the bank or pocket not a common reality.   Its a few years back since I sold the last two AC cars,  but my spread of price in my dialogue on a good car was 80-145k that's how wide the flowing strokes from keyboard warriors fly . If they had to back their brag.my god wouldn't it be easy.

I do laugh and some in the past have had a go at my own starting low ball but that's backed with the guarantee of a deposit . The deal gets real and virtue and value can be talked up from a qualified place.  I have actually sold two cars , with deposit to view scenarios being a starter to sell cars from me cos I cant be stuffed with the messing about.

36 minutes ago, Schnell said:

Oh I must apologise that I had never replied! As I tell my other half, it was my intention to, honest, and that still counts right? haha. Did he sell it in the end? 

And @symsy thanks for giving me a few laughs today, your poetic delivery of insider knowledge is impeccable.

Thinking laterally .. you could swap with @LeeM  , notional swap , 25k self applied valuations on your cars  , brownbag of retro cash for any dollars outside of that, so the Govt coffers dont get filled with stamp duties..   Im happy send you a template for  bill of sale and witness it as an arms length transaction , you could both be in new cars before the weekends out 

[symsy]

17 minutes ago, LeeM said:

 Aaaah @symsy Always the voice or reason...or something 😅

 And yes they are Ronal P9 rims, and yes they are very rare to be seen on a 911, so let's start the auction at...ooh...say $3500?  No lowballing, as I know what I have mate 😉😁 

If you have only 4 Your are not getting over a Ton on that car .. unless you have one of these forward date space savers on board .

Any takers for  a clean Hundred on the Silver car ?     It has been reimagined a few times an has more than Luft heritage and prestigious owner who will play ya a tune on his guitar and Sing a song if you buy it . 

Sing A long hood Christmas ...... with the owner who maybe a Singer !

[LeeM]

15 minutes ago, symsy said:

If you have only 4 Your are not getting over a Ton on that car .. unless you have one of these forward date space savers on board .

Any takers for  a clean Hundred on the Silver car ?     It has been reimagined a few times an has more than Luft heritage and prestigious owner who will play ya a tune on his guitar and Sing a song if you buy it . 

Sing A long hood Christmas ...... with the owner who maybe a Singer !

 😅 You idiot ❤

Wanna bet re the ton? Been offered triple that, complete with guard rail dings and a quick acoustic rendition of Bon Jovi's "Dead or Alive" Tempting huh? 😁

[OBRUT]

1 hour ago, Schnell said:

Oh I must apologise that I had never replied! As I tell my other half, it was my intention to, honest, and that still counts right? haha. Did he sell it in the end? 

Yep. Cracker too - rebuilt motor, great paint and cool options. 

[Schnell]

3 minutes ago, OBRUT said:

Yep. Cracker too - rebuilt motor, great paint and cool options. 

Well you snooze you lose, you had actually caught me in the middle of chasing mortgage approval so Pcars were on the backburner for a bit.

[OBRUT]

44 minutes ago, Schnell said:

Well you snooze you lose, you had actually caught me in the middle of chasing mortgage approval so Pcars were on the backburner for a bit.

There is always another. 

[LeeM]

9 hours ago, Yeatesy said:

very nice @LeeM 💪

 Thanks mate. It ain't perfect, but it's fun 👍

 

 

[PomBstard]

Well, its been a while since I've posted in here, but I reckon this market watching might help me out...

My 928 S4 got rear-ended and is beyond economic repair. Which is a shame, as there aren't many manual S4s in Australia. Anyway, I'm now looking for a replacement and another S4, or 944S2/T are on the (very) short shortlist. Manual only, obvs.

All pointers appreciated!

[sleazius]

3 hours ago, symsy said:

964 Targa on a boat with its nearby brothers from the JDM marketplace wont matter.

I don’t speak fluent forum Symsy, but this stood out… what JDM goodies you hiding in the garage?

[edgy]

1 hour ago, PomBstard said:

Well, its been a while since I've posted in here, but I reckon this market watching might help me out...

My 928 S4 got rear-ended and is beyond economic repair. Which is a shame, as there aren't many manual S4s in Australia. Anyway, I'm now looking for a replacement and another S4, or 944S2/T are on the (very) short shortlist. Manual only, obvs.

All pointers appreciated!

A good mate of mine has a manual S4 he’s thinking about parting with, Sydney based, PM me if you’re keen and I’ll connect you. 

[symsy]

1 hour ago, sleazius said:

I don’t speak fluent forum Symsy, but this stood out… what JDM goodies you hiding in the garage?

3 x GTR 32's Vspecs . all sold , just a speculative hustle done at the time .. Driven by a conversation with some younger lads , that went a little like our page here..  I had cash and had found myself with no vocation and income.. and was pretty much unemployable and unemployed.

My market research question..

Question  to them , what was the W.nk wall pinup poster was on your wall growing up.. they were millennials not boomers I guess or the gen somethings,  whatever you call them .. I just thought young punks who think they know about cars Rally cars  🤪.    I then went away and thought theres a common timing and driving force with us fellas ,  I thought , these blokes or blokes a few years older then them would be hitting 40 and or sending their kid who's finished out of uni soon and would go for that Nostalgic toy plunge at some point .

For me as others have declared it was a 930 , Countach and  037s , Intergrale Evos and Quattro sports.    

So long story short bought em , polished em somewhat and sold em all and also 2 others one to the US and done to the UK ...and then like most good things others got that idea to and a bubble and short supply fixed that money making venture .. fun cars but .. The rest is history , like the complaining about imports , give em all to me , let me drive em .. 

 

 

2 hours ago, PomBstard said:

Well, its been a while since I've posted in here, but I reckon this market watching might help me out...

My 928 S4 got rear-ended and is beyond economic repair. Which is a shame, as there aren't many manual S4s in Australia. Anyway, I'm now looking for a replacement and another S4, or 944S2/T are on the (very) short shortlist. Manual only, obvs.

All pointers appreciated!

@michel   you got a couple in ya stash dont ya ?

[sleazius]

1 hour ago, symsy said:

My market research question..

Question  to them , what was the W.nk wall pinup poster was on your wall growing up.. they were millennials not boomers I guess or the gen somethings,  whatever you call them .. I just thought young punks who think they know about cars Rally cars  🤪

@michel

2 door WRX was the other one. There is still some arbitrage on JDM stis but the gap is closing.

I would have added the spirit-r but that ship has sailed.