symsy Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 Or this..............41k engine rebuild - ouch!http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-3641798?WT.seg_4=AutoAlert;PCAA&sdmvc=1&utm_campaign=bau&utm_medium=email&utm_source=transact&utm_content=autoalertSeriously though if you had an unfortunate blip or problem with a motor and its been fully rebuilt would this be of any concern? Surely porsche themselves would warrant such a build to the hilt, i heard of checking the over revs, but a full rebuild becuase of a track day ? I really want a white or silver car , just trying to get to the Gen 2 is a stretch in dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 how do you over rev these and need an engine rebuild...aren't rev limiters supposed to avoid this?I'm guessing that's why its now running with Motec? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott930 Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 how do you over rev these and need an engine rebuild...aren't rev limiters supposed to avoid this?I'm guessing a "mechanical" over rev on downshift (missed gear into too low gear), as far as I know no rev limiter can prevent that in a manual car? Mick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 I'm guessing a "mechanical" over rev on downshift (missed gear into too low gear), as far as I know no rev limiter can prevent that in a manual car?+1 Just what I was about to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 I'm guessing a "mechanical" over rev on downshift (missed gear into too low gear), as far as I know no rev limiter can prevent that in a manual car?Must have been one mighty lockup .. and im sure an event like that would be known around the traps in Melbourne… tell me who wouldnt be enthralled if one of those came back into the paddock on a trailer at your drive day.. tell me your not enthralled when you just see one. Maybe lets see if they will take 41k off the price Then I might jump in.. would you or does that kind history give you a 41k's worth of anxiety.. interesting to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claywong Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 Therefore, he blew the motor. In which all costs needed to be spared! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue964 Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 I'm guessing a "mechanical" over rev on downshift (missed gear into too low gear), as far as I know no rev limiter can prevent that in a manual car?perhaps i'm overlooking something as I don't really know much about 997's, but isn't a rev limiter a rev limiter--limit the RPM irrespective of what's going on with gear changes. Are you saying that the rev limiter in a 997.2 doesn't kick in on downshifts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 perhaps i'm overlooking something as I don't really know much about 997's, but isn't a rev limiter a rev limiter--limit the RPM irrespective of what's going on with gear changes. Are you saying that the rev limiter in a 997.2 doesn't kick in on downshifts?In my 2am dream driving sessions , its just keeps going fast and the you just keep dialing it into the corners and you never run out of brakes and somehow changing down rarely seems to come up , just changing up as I power out the corners Wow thats good question for reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue964 Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 In my 2am dream driving sessions , its just keeps going fast and the you just keep dialing it into the corners and you never run out of brakes and somehow changing down rarely seems to come up , just changing up as I power out the corners Wow thats good question for reality i want one of those cars you drive in your 2am sessions symsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 i want one of those cars you drive in your 2am sessionsHypnosis and dream therapy available along with crystal healing in Byron mate .. I can even do some sound therapy for the correct dreamstate exhaust note.. airport transfers in Air cooled luxury -- $1000 per night, let me know your check in dates Blue964 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 perhaps i'm overlooking something as I don't really know much about 997's, but isn't a rev limiter a rev limiter--limit the RPM irrespective of what's going on with gear changes. Are you saying that the rev limiter in a 997.2 doesn't kick in on downshifts?As far as I know, no rev limiter works on a manual trans down changes (and I cannot see how it could really?). They only work if over revving via the right foot - cut power/ fuel/ etc.If you over rev on down change you over rev and not much the engine electronics can do about it. Some cars I have heard of have a "weakness" built into the clutch to try and stop this (ie the clutch fails to save the engine - I thought some Subies had this but may be wrong?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 So group negotiation tactics and strategy session , really , how much would you be worried and what priced negotiation would you place on it 41k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue964 Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 As far as I know, no rev limiter works on a manual trans down changes (and I cannot see how it could really?). They only work if over revving via the right foot - cut power/ fuel/ etc.If you over rev on down change you over rev and not much the engine electronics can do about it. Some cars I have heard of have a "weakness" built into the clutch to try and stop this (ie the clutch fails to save the engine - I thought some Subies had this but may be wrong?).Sounds convincing enough for me. I'm tempted to take my car out and test your theory, but the thought of a 41k engine rebuild is enough for me to just agree with your sound logic and wisdom ANF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 As far as I know, no rev limiter works on a manual trans down changes (and I cannot see how it could really?). They only work if over revving via the right foot - cut power/ fuel/ etc.If you over rev on down change you over rev and not much the engine electronics can do about it. Some cars I have heard of have a "weakness" built into the clutch to try and stop this (ie the clutch fails to save the engine - I thought some Subies had this but may be wrong?).Grabbing second instead of fourth is called the the money shift ByronBayChris, hugh, Fraz and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB911 Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 The 959 is one of my favourite cars!! Love it, it is gorgeous. Obviously some have no taste!! If I saw a 959 in the flesh I would probably go all Clarkson and have to lick it, I love the 959. Ok. so I'm not quite like the other kids, hey I drive a watercooled front engine back off man..... ANF, firstone and Fraz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 (edited) I'm with you MB! Paris Dakar Rothman 959's are the coolest 911's ever and is probably the reason I had to get a 993 as well as you can see where they came from. Edited 15October, 2015 by Peter M ANF, ByronBayChris, MB911 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 perhaps i'm overlooking something as I don't really know much about 997's, but isn't a rev limiter a rev limiter--limit the RPM irrespective of what's going on with gear changes. Are you saying that the rev limiter in a 997.2 doesn't kick in on downshifts?Go down the road in any car at say 100-120k put it into first gear let the clutch out and tell me how the rev limiter went. No rev limiter can stop excessive road to rev speed it simply buzzes the hell out of the engine then you get to spend thousands fixing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 Grabbing second instead of fourth is called the the money shiftit's why God invented PDK. We are all too stupid to handle these new cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Man Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 I'm with you MB! Paris Dakar Rothman 959's are the coolest 911's ever and is probably the reason I had to get a 993 as well as you can see where they came from. Couldn't resist stepping into the "please do not enter" area to take this shot. Absolutelly impressive and game changing car. GUT, Peter M, ByronBayChris and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 lefty 964 4 (common red)http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/maddington/cars-vans-utes/1989-porsche-911-carrera-4-red-5-speed-manual-coupe/1092195771 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 T what the hell are you doing up at 4:30 on this site... maaaaaate you have problems turboT and symsy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Man Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 T what the hell are you doing up at 4:30 on this site... maaaaaate you have problems 4:30??? Must have been sleep typing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 T what the hell are you doing up at 4:30 on this site... maaaaaate you have problems 24hr job keeping you boys up to speed with the current p-car marketplace that and my 3 year old woke up screaming at 3.30am and I had a 6am flight to catch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli84 Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 lefty 964 4 (common red)http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/maddington/cars-vans-utes/1989-porsche-911-carrera-4-red-5-speed-manual-coupe/1092195771 This is the one that was on Carsales for ages. Asking $50k back then if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 15October, 2015 Report Share Posted 15October, 2015 This is the one that was on Carsales for ages. Asking $50k back then if I remember correctly. that's what I thought to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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