Diamond911 Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 I'm confusedhttps://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1986/SSE-AD-4213656/?Cr=1firstly the wing, say no more. But for sale...not for sale....must be missing something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 (edited) Michel,According to Long, all SE's were delivered with the cast Design 90 wheels rather than the pukka CS forged ones.Oh, no I've stooped so low as to have become a 928 anorak!weirdly @Peter M sharing your experience... I'll go back through some notes I got from a few SE owners.. but lifted this from the link @ANF put up.. 9x16(rear) "club sport" with an offset of 60mm with 225/50 16(front) and 245/45 16(rear) tiresthe GT got d90's around 1990 so I'm guessing the SE copped the clubsport as well.and to put a bit more 959 into @rafikdous world , 928 diff technology came from itSeems though the early GT might be as special as an SE and is a recognised model as opposed to a highly optioned car .. anyway back to core business .. what's a 963? Edited 16March, 2017 by michel Peter M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 I'm confusedhttps://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1986/SSE-AD-4213656/?Cr=1firstly the wing, say no more. But for sale...not for sale....must be missing somethingI hear the Carsales experience will do that to you...... edgy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLD Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 I'm confusedhttps://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1986/SSE-AD-4213656/?Cr=1firstly the wing, say no more. But for sale...not for sale....must be missing somethingSeriously, moron of the century k0nz, reggiegums and SimonN 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 The 3.2 is my fave as well. I hate to admit, but I agree... that's it, no more agreeing this week. michel, AL911, JonoF and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu2Pcars Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 Just a view, having thad an eye out on 996 tt pricing for over 2.5 years. Bottom line is. What's your plan for your car. Garage queen to support the low km's going forward hence a spin around the block once a week and looking for resale value (personally don't think auto's are on top of the top dollar list even with those low kilometres if resale is your thhing). Or are you going to actually drive it , enjoy it and put kilometres on the car.As I see it, at 120k plus, you are purely paying a premium for the low km's. Has the car been services every 6 months regardless of km's? The reason I ask is I reckon the best stock example I came across was one a silver manual 2004 series 2 with lots of options eg pcm etc with 50k km and essentially serviced every 5000/ 6 months at Porsche dealer. about a year ago and a black 2004 manual completey stock with 33km on it for 105k two years ago. Pricing was all over the shop on the silver one. eg up to 147k but I think it got taken off car sales after price was dropped at the high 120's. As others have mentioned I reckon market now is circa 100k for an auto (series 2 - 2003 and up which deserves a slight premium and hence series 1's slightly less) and their not exactly getting snapped up straight away. (did you have to put a deposit down before they would let you do a ppi???) For 120k plus, theres another 4 -5k to fix that list you note and it appears to me the the car was a trade in on F? , a bit of a quick spit and polish and whack it at the high end of car sale price guide (there been on for a while) and see how we go (not one of your goto well known Porsche used dealers?). eg strange tyres are not sorted or windscreen wipers not done at a 30k service.. Little signs of lack of attention to detail, but call me picky particulary if I am spending top top dollar. Bottom like is I reckon a auto is worth 5k to 10k less than a manual and that puts you up their with paying the highest I am aware of someone picking for an auto for in 2.5 years. As others have said, I would run the ruler over the autohaus one (devils in the PPI detail) or the blue private one for crica 105 (get for 5 figures with some argy bargy??), assuming comparable engine compression etc, spend 5k to sort out the shit bits and 6k for a tune and exhaust a you will have a 50% better drivers car than the one you are chasing if left stock when behind the wheel, but might not be as quite tight as the 30k one, but reckon you would need to drive a couple of them to notice that difference. Then you can pocket 20k to spend on something else. That said, not a scratch on the duco / interior (eg nothing on the PPI?) sounds like a museum piece to look at.These cars are getting old and rubber needs replacing. eg classic is even with 30k the engine mounts are shot compared to others with many more km's that are not exactly shot, but should be replaced regardless. I would do them with doing the tranny mounts (997)at the same time. if you are into driving. (absolute must on any 996 tt if not done recently to stiffen up the drivetrain). I am also surprised suspension arms need replacing unless the rubber in those are shot. As someone else said, low kms is good and sort after, but doesn't mean its been well looked after. Note Plus sub 100k km is only circa 6000km a year or 120km a week.Good luck with whatever you choose and make sure they put ps2's or P zero's tyres and get a Porsche stamp to support those fixes to maintain the patina of the museum piece if that's the way you are going. (only Porsche dealer stamps in the book I am assuming???) That said, that's the only time I see you going to a Porsche dealer, eg paying a lot of P tax purely for the service stamp to maintain the Patina and not convinced the work done on a 996 tt at a dealer is any better than your specialist P indi (eg paying a premium to cover the overheads and ambiance). PS I reckon if tyres are on their way out, your up for 4-5k to sort out any 996 turbo (eg tyres, updated service (if not done already) tranny and motor mount and shit bits from a PPI and maybe some stone chip. scratch touchup.@Michel, I was all over it with a response penned, hit the send button and the wifi dropped out in this dodgy hotel I'm camped out at for the week. Ironic in that the company we are contracting with (booked my hotel) has a different business line that signed up 100 million 4g mobile users in six months (starting from testing their network on their employees) and the hotel charged me the same amount for a week of dodgy wifi that would have paid for a sim card with 4gb per month of data for 6 months. Crazy - AUD $7 per month for unlimited in country calls and 6gb of data for a 4g sim card pre paid or post. Thanks for this guys. Just what I need.The car will be driven as a daily and on weekends. No garage Queen.Yes the attraction is the low Kms apart from the colour combo, year of manufacture.Services have been at Porsche centers but not every 6 mnths. They are on the mileages. Car sat with a Porsche dealer for a VIP client for the first 11 years having only done 28000Km and then 3000 kms since thenThe recent turbo sales i have seen have all been low km cars ~ 40-60k. I am sure the blue one in NQLD will sell soon as well. The ones sitting on Carsales are 80K+ . Some of them have a great service history but have been there for a while, other have a poor service history and have had prices reduced but no sales.I can see I am paying top dollar for the car and that cannot be a good thing!I like the plan for the other two cars.There seems to be a cartel in Perth picking up these cars as the last 2 sales have been to buyers from Perth and the interest in the QLD car is from Perth as well.The suspension work is for bump stops and top strut mounts.I am going to insist all the work is done at a porsche dealer or an independent like Autohaus (seeing that the feeling here is they are an excellent bunch) and see where that takes me. If not walk away. Apologies for keeping this going on and thanks a lot for your advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
09ELF Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 I'm confusedhttps://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1986/SSE-AD-4213656/?Cr=1firstly the wing, say no more. But for sale...not for sale....must be missing somethinghe should post it on http://www.carnotforsale.com.au AL911 and JonoF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 I think he is unhinged enough to post it on: http://www.gofuckyourself.com.au michel, Rbware, Robert930 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 Things are pretty tough when even the dog has to look away...Hahahaha. It looks embarrassed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cars And Coffee Byron Bay Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 Holy shitballs $195kWasn't the last one of these about 95k?And was it this one?https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-924-1981/OAG-AD-14463422is this the same car from CTS around August last year? If so, the conditiom of the body was poor. They were asking $199000 micknine01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 is this the same car from CTS around August last year? If so, the conditiom of the body was poor. They were asking $199000oh @901er a second possible verification that a third crop circle exists... Dealers regularly swap cars micknine01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tips Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 Bloody quote formatting!!! I've lost Edgy's quote too.Yes, the blue car did stop me in my tracks and did honestly think I'd be in a water cooled car by now but that'll all have to wait awhile. Seeing the JonoF family and SimonN's cars on the Wollombi run a week ago made me realise I still have some unfinished air cooled business to complete so have bought another 3.2 that I pick up on Saturday. It needs some work since it's high mileage but the attraction for me was I won't have any second thoughts about putting more km's on it or modifying it. nice work Pete talking mods already so straight back on the slippery slope.....and that bloody Passat wasn't going to get you on the next P car run...Autohaus run Sunday week all though heading south so a few more K's for u, will we see the new car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 Thanks Tips! Probably not a starter for next Sunday as I have a close friend's fiftieth the night before and history has shown repeatedly the day after is always very quiet..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scashin Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 Simon, I've sold out and gone G50 and big air vents! Didn't locate a suitable UK import so have bought one of those limp Oz delivered ones that will need the compression bumped up as part of the engine work. Is it red and came from autohous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonoF Posted 16March, 2017 Report Share Posted 16March, 2017 We haven't commented on this yet. 72T with 3.2L (not installed) for $95K firm. http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/182485101690?_mwBanner=1&ul_noapp=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 17March, 2017 Report Share Posted 17March, 2017 We haven't commented on this yet. 72T with 3.2L (not installed) for $95K firm. http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/182485101690?_mwBanner=1&ul_noapp=true On face value, I think its expensive given the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonN Posted 17March, 2017 Report Share Posted 17March, 2017 We haven't commented on this yet. 72T with 3.2L (not installed) for $95K firm. http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/182485101690?_mwBanner=1&ul_noapp=true Why would you buy that at that price when you could buy thishttps://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/surfers-paradise/cars-vans-utes/1972-porsche-911t/1097606588My guess is that for the money it would cost you to get the car into a half decent state, you could import a matching numbers lhd car in good condition, if that is what you want. Seems to me to be $30k over priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 17March, 2017 Report Share Posted 17March, 2017 Why would you buy that at that price when you could buy thishttps://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/surfers-paradise/cars-vans-utes/1972-porsche-911t/1097606588My guess is that for the money it would cost you to get the car into a half decent state, you could import a matching numbers lhd car in good condition, if that is what you want. Seems to me to be $30k over priced.Surely something is up with that if its been listed for 15 months and still on the market. JonoF and sandy468 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 17March, 2017 Report Share Posted 17March, 2017 (edited) Michel,According to Long, all SE's were delivered with the cast Design 90 wheels rather than the pukka CS forged ones.Oh, no I've stooped so low as to have become a 928 anorak!For extra 928 anorakness, did you know that Porsche gave each or their works drivers in 1988 a 928 CS "prototype", Derek Bell got one as did others. Hans-Joachim Stück got one that had a PDK gearbox modified from a 962 racer, is this the first Porsche road car with a PDK?? Actually it could have been 1987.... Edited 17March, 2017 by ANF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 17March, 2017 Report Share Posted 17March, 2017 For extra 928 anorakness, did you know that Porsche gave each or their works drivers in 1988 a 928 CS "prototype", Derek Bell got one as did others. Hans-Joachim Stück got one that had a PDK gearbox modified from a 962 racer, is this the first Porsche road car with a PDK?? @Peter M you see what can befall you... Peter M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 17March, 2017 Report Share Posted 17March, 2017 (edited) Is it redYep! When it disappeared a couple weeks ago I thought you had bought it. I've seen it advertised twice over the years and I wasn't going to miss out a third time. Doing the engine myself makes the $ stack up. Plus any excuse to delay my house renovations further was a bonus too! Edited 17March, 2017 by Peter M scashin, SteveF, SimonN and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 17March, 2017 Report Share Posted 17March, 2017 Plus any excuse to delay my house renovations further was a bonus too!Words of wisdom, I wish I never started renovating! I should have left it, rented it and sold it as is for a cool profit. sleazius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SimonN Posted 17March, 2017 Report Share Posted 17March, 2017 Surely something is up with that if its been listed for 15 months and still on the market. Woops! In my haste, i hadn't spotted that. However, it is still true that you could import a half decent matching numbers car for about the money it would cost to get this car to a similar position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknine01 Posted 17March, 2017 Report Share Posted 17March, 2017 964, another bloody scratch I need to itch. I have the sickness so bad hugh, tomo and Fraz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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