Arnage Posted 22October, 2019 Report Share Posted 22October, 2019 1 hour ago, JV911 said: Because it actually represents a discount to anyone considering undertaking a project of their own. They could either buy a stocker for a small fortune, then spend another small fortune modding it, or they could buy something like that one. Niche market, but it's there. Sorry JV I just don't get it. Times have obviously changed because track cars such as that white one would have been seriously hard to shift at half that money (comparatively speaking). symsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted 22October, 2019 Report Share Posted 22October, 2019 1 hour ago, smit2100 said: Do you need 200k to throw at hot? Seemed to be a pretty clean low km 997.1 gt3 in perth advertised at 150k for a quick offload (with perhaps even a slight discount to asking price ) a couple of months back. 5k for servicing / nuance fixes and for me in terms if wanker talk whats wrong with a sharkwerks tune, Kline valvtronic exhaust with 100 cel cats and some ohlins road and track coilovers to soften it off as you say or raise it up or down. Isn't that about $170k and then add 10k for near term consumables / missteps on a ppi or a comfy drivers seat). Forgot to mention didn't need the extra 10k premium for colour either ( it was white). In terms of investment and that wanker talk, about a day on a hoist and a bit of rewiring to bring it back to stock as I see it if ever inclined to do so. Havent driven either but hard to imagine any N/A 964 ( even a singer at circa 500hp) matching a tweaked 997 in the performance and handling stakes if one was restricted to one garage spot for that week end NA alrounder for that spin around the extended block. Pretty hard to objectively justify a non-RS 964 over any GT3 (of similar condition), unless you're dead-set on a 964. 964's aren't about speed, just like older 911's aren't. My 2010 mini is faster and handles better than my 964! Still love it though! Harold996tt, Dalai, symsy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 22October, 2019 Report Share Posted 22October, 2019 1 hour ago, smit2100 said: Do you need 200k to throw at hot? Seemed to be a pretty clean low km 997.1 gt3 in perth advertised at 150k for a quick offload (with perhaps even a slight discount to asking price ) a couple of months back. 5k for servicing / nuance fixes and for me in terms if wanker talk whats wrong with a sharkwerks tune, Kline valvtronic exhaust with 100 cel cats and some ohlins road and track coilovers to soften it off as you say or raise it up or down. Isn't that about $170k and then add 10k for near term consumables / missteps on a ppi or a comfy drivers seat). Forgot to mention didn't need the extra 10k premium for colour either ( it was white). In terms of investment and that wanker talk, about a day on a hoist and a bit of rewiring to bring it back to stock as I see it if ever inclined to do so. Havent driven either but hard to imagine any N/A 964 ( even a singer at circa 500hp) matching a tweaked 997 in the performance and handling stakes if one was restricted to one garage spot for that week end NA alrounder for that spin around the extended block. 996 turbo still best bang for buck mate and u know it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 22October, 2019 Report Share Posted 22October, 2019 Modded 964 v GT3. A very different kettle of fish. You can't compare them at all...in my opinion Harold996tt and JV911 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight 911 Posted 22October, 2019 Report Share Posted 22October, 2019 30 minutes ago, LeeM said: Modded 964 v GT3. A very different kettle of fish. You can't compare them at all...in my opinion The perfect pair! 964 wins though. Untouchable. KGB, reggiegums, JV911 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli84 Posted 24October, 2019 Report Share Posted 24October, 2019 On 22/10/2019 at 22:33, Midnight 911 said: The perfect pair! 964 wins though. Untouchable. Big call Luke, but you are certainly in the position to make that comparison (good to see where the heart still lies) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy73 Posted 24October, 2019 Report Share Posted 24October, 2019 On 22/10/2019 at 22:33, Midnight 911 said: The perfect pair! 964 wins though. Untouchable. Huge call! But I love it. I’m always a little bit surprised by how many practical and rational arguments are presented in this thread. The heart wants what the heart wants. If I didn’t own a P car and was buying my first, I’d still want a 964. Is it as good a driving experience as a 997 GT3? In purely dynamic terms, of course not. Does it have that insane howl you only get when hitting 9000 RPM. No. But it’s way too easy – when making rational arguments – to ignore the obvious. As enthusiasts, most of us are looking for cars that just light that fire within. For some, it’ll be a modern GT car. For others a long hood. For yet others, a 964. Love doesn’t make sense people. I want three Porsches. My 964, a long hood and a modern-day GT car. Because I want all of those experiences. But would I sacrifice my 964 for a GT3? Nope. Does that make sense? Doesn’t have to. I go into the garage every night before bed to “check that the back door is locked” and stand there just looking for 60 seconds. And that’s what I was looking for when I decided three years ago to get another Porsche. JWM, Tips, Harold996tt and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 24October, 2019 Report Share Posted 24October, 2019 If you are after a great "all rounder" 911 then the 964 is right up there. Andy73 and poli84 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 25October, 2019 Report Share Posted 25October, 2019 Never driven a 964 or a GT3, yet @Andy73 that was possibly the most rational, unbiased opinion I have ever read on here. Bravo 👏👏👏 👍 Andy73 and symsy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy73 Posted 27October, 2019 Report Share Posted 27October, 2019 On 25/10/2019 at 20:45, LeeM said: Never driven a 964 or a GT3, yet @Andy73 that was possibly the most rational, unbiased opinion I have ever read on here. Bravo 👏👏👏 👍 Once in a while I try to write something that makes sense! LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted 28October, 2019 Report Share Posted 28October, 2019 Check out the 30th anniversary 964 (under offer) at CTS. Very nice. https://classicthrottleshop.com/1993-porsche-911-964-anniversary-limited-edition/ Pilko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbaxter Posted 28October, 2019 Report Share Posted 28October, 2019 Apologies if this has been discussed before but at this price does anyone know why it's been sitting so long? https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1990-porsche-911-carrera-4-964-manual-awd/SSE-AD-6019997/?Cr=31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 29October, 2019 Report Share Posted 29October, 2019 1 hour ago, Ashbaxter said: Apologies if this has been discussed before but at this price does anyone know why it's been sitting so long? https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1990-porsche-911-carrera-4-964-manual-awd/SSE-AD-6019997/?Cr=31 My 2c: its a combo of factors - C4, import, odd interior colour, ugly wheels & bad photos. Pilko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWY Posted 29October, 2019 Report Share Posted 29October, 2019 Air cooled market has come off 15-20% from the highs over the past year or so. One more thing not helping this sale is that the car is in Townsville area. That's a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknine01 Posted 29October, 2019 Report Share Posted 29October, 2019 8 hours ago, HWY said: One more thing not helping this sale is that the car is in Townsville area. That's a long way. A long way from where 🤔 It’s 2019, we have aeroplanes, internet banking and car carriers Troubleshooter, Peter M and OBRUT 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsujack Posted 29October, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 29October, 2019 12 hours ago, OBRUT said: My 2c: its a combo of factors - C4, import, odd interior colour, ugly wheels & bad photos. ^^ This. Especially the last two. Pilko and OBRUT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFX Posted 29October, 2019 Report Share Posted 29October, 2019 ...and why is it so high? Something just doesn't look right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsujack Posted 29October, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 29October, 2019 11 minutes ago, MFX said: ...and why is it so high? Something just doesn't look right. It looks like original factory ride height to me. Most have been lowered by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFX Posted 29October, 2019 Report Share Posted 29October, 2019 6 minutes ago, itsujack said: It looks like original factory ride height to me. Most have been lowered by now. Maybe you are right. Either way, it looks odd It needs to come down at least a bit to look right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsujack Posted 30October, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 30October, 2019 It was the first AWD 911 so had a ride height to match 😀 6 hours ago, MFX said: Maybe you are right. Either way, it looks odd It needs to come down at least a bit to look right. OBRUT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 30October, 2019 Report Share Posted 30October, 2019 8 hours ago, MFX said: Maybe you are right. Either way, it looks odd It needs to come down at least a bit to look right. You need the colour matched D90’s to pull off the stock ride height... MFX and Ashbaxter 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted 30October, 2019 Report Share Posted 30October, 2019 On 29/10/2019 at 11:02, OBRUT said: My 2c: its a combo of factors - C4, import, odd interior colour, ugly wheels & bad photos. I considered this one when looking for mine but there were cars local to me with better photos for not much more money. And those wheels and the ride height make me sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 30October, 2019 Report Share Posted 30October, 2019 On 29/10/2019 at 09:48, Ashbaxter said: Apologies if this has been discussed before but at this price does anyone know why it's been sitting so long? https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1990-porsche-911-carrera-4-964-manual-awd/SSE-AD-6019997/?Cr=31 It started off at $125k At it's current price I think its worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy73 Posted 30October, 2019 Report Share Posted 30October, 2019 I've been watching this car for months. I'm always amazed by how poorly people represent their cars in ads. Rubbish photos etc. This is a classic example of that (albeit not as bad as the images of the car below). That said, at under $100K it's not hard to look past the crappy photos, crappy wheels and safari stance, or even the fact that it's an import. Well worth a look for a serious buyer in my opinion. itsujack and Peter M 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 30October, 2019 Report Share Posted 30October, 2019 I think that is the most hilarious photo for a sale ad that I have ever seen! 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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