smit2100 Posted 13October, 2020 Report Share Posted 13October, 2020 15 hours ago, Dreamr said: I personally don’t think anyone in particular is stupid for modding their car to their own taste, whether it is back dating or forward dating or engine swap or whatever. Absolutely each to their own. History has shown that changes from factory (as above) affects value and desireability in the general marketplace. So ... individually stupid? ... not at all. Stupidity in terms of desireability and saleability .... I believe so. Specific to boosted but principles apply to N /A ( except for supercar reference). I agree with the bloke that write this below x100. Note the reference to the 991.1turbo S. Note the NEVER comment. Stock and unsorted: These bring the most "ROI" and are often the least fun to drive.... Services might be current, but most services never really address things like minor boost leaks, worn suspension, poor alignment, all the little parts that wear out on time regardless of mileage, etc. Most buyers, especially first time turbo owners or buyers at online auctions, really can't tell the difference between a stock sorted and stock unsorted car...Stock, fully sorted, (potentially collector quality): Same as above, but gone over with a fine-tooth comb and brought back to as the factory intended. More fun to drive than an unsorted car, but nowhere near their full potential as a drivers car. Big bucks to the right buyer if low miles, paint and bodywork perfect, perhaps a rare option or two.Lightly modded with correct, modern mods, fully sorted: Fully sorted with all the minor stuff, suspension refresh or upgrade, exhaust, modern tune, perhaps a clutch or clutch hydraulics upgrade, perhaps GT2 tire/wheel/alignment specs, perhaps a 350mm brake upgrade, etc. These are an absolute BLAST to drive and will give you supercar level performance at a modest price. If all the upgrades are the correct ones, done by a reputable shop or inspected, you can get a fair bit of the upgrade cost back on resale, but don't expect anywhere near 1:1 return on upgrades. The market for these cars is really owners who have had one before and know exactly what upgrades are good and which ones are worthless or worse...Old or unknown mods, not sorted: Being able to tell the difference between one of these and the category above is kind of critical, and why many buyers just avoid buying modified cars... Get out your checkbook.Highly modified: It's great that you can build a 800-1,000HP 996 Turbo to slay the 1/4 mile and/or build a track monster that will outlap a modern cup car, but do it because you absolutely love having something like that and don't expect to recoup a fraction of your investment.... That said, it still will likely be far less loss than the depreciation on a new 992 Turbo! If it isn't obvious, my favorite is the lightly modded, fully sorted variety. Car was stock when I bought it, and I planned on keeping it more-or-less that way, but that didn't last... I've kept all the stock parts, but realistically it is NEVER going back to stock. Too much work to make the car far less enjoyable, even if it would return a few more dollars if I ever sold it.Mods include: GT2-spec wheels and tires sizes, near GT2-spec alignment Bilstein B8 / H&R Sport spring suspension 350mm rotor conversion RS brake spoilers, pad upgrade Fully sorted boost plumbing, 710N diverters, GT2RS intercoolers, Cobb tune Titanium catless X-pipe exhaust Short shift console GT2 clutch upgrade GT2 clutch slave conversion I also have a 991.1 Turbo S... The above 996 Turbo is easily as much fun to drive, almost as quick, and always puts a smile on my face. (but the 991 TTS does as well!) Reply #9 Evolution , 10-05-2020 03:15 PM AddictRennlist Member Keywords that are value-add: Ohlins Europipe Euro buckets UMW tune, turbos GT2 twists OEM GT2 front/rear Reply #10 Dock , 10-05-2020 05:21 PM User My advice? You need to decide on what your personal target is for the car in terms of performance and looks and not worry about any return on investment if you modify the car to attain that target. michel, Dreamr, luzzo and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 13October, 2020 Report Share Posted 13October, 2020 I have just read back on this thread because i haven't been here for a few days, Nowhere did i read that someone said the forward date car was stupid, why get all huffy and puffy about it, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. I didn't read any negative comments about the update car. The question was asked why would you do it and then want 60k for it, personally i don't like it and i think it's probably worth maybe 45k, that's my opinion. I'll go and pop some corn and get a Bevy. disco, GC9911 and Dreamr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 Nothing like good banter to keep this forum alive, would be a pretty boring place if we didn’t have opinions. Dreamr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 I’ve been so wanting to ‘cock my leg’ on this thread last cpl days ... 😊🥳 love it see nuthin wrong in a ***996-7 tribute Car . same for a G-pre 73 , G-964 924cgt replica, 959 replica 🥰🥰 COVIN et al . All gods creatures. (I also like patina faux, contrived Or through time and or neglect .) ***Though personally cannot abide a cab though kudos to those who can . @smit2100 thx for the top up, good re/post. the 996.2 I bought is exactly in the lightly modded sorted category , only would wish for a bit more grunt . A 996 chassis repanelled as a G series would be a hoot . just reminded me of the local (to me) village fool who took a LHD 993, a 75 Oz delivery 911 and tried to make a RHD 993 ... 8-9 years and a full custom rear space frame ..project fell over. But it would be a fun drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 I'm all for modifying for improved performance or adding alternative parts that help reduce build/maintenance costs like @smit2100 has listed, loving the look of this 77 RSR tribute posted on "what's for sale" https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1977-porsche-911-manual/SSE-AD-6611170/?Cr=66 and would love a hotrod 356 outlaw one day (it will be the only 356 I can afford). No issues with stickers that aren't trying to change the model of the car like the 996-7 headlight conversion, can anyone honestly say that looks better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 1 hour ago, Stepo said: I'm all for modifying for improved performance or adding alternative parts that help reduce build/maintenance costs like @smit2100 has listed, loving the look of this 77 RSR tribute posted on "what's for sale" https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1977-porsche-911-manual/SSE-AD-6611170/?Cr=66 and would love a hotrod 356 outlaw one day (it will be the only 356 I can afford). No issues with stickers that aren't trying to change the model of the car like the 996-7 headlight conversion, can anyone honestly say that looks better I can’t say it’s wrong… But it’s clearly a Mercedes tributeI can’t say it’s wrong… But it’s clearly a Mercedes tribute Carrera28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 1 hour ago, Stepo said: loving the look of this 77 RSR tribute posted on "what's for sale" https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1977-porsche-911-manual/SSE-AD-6611170/?Cr=66 A members car and its a cracker. What's his name here @hugh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 No details or pics in their ad right now but based on the km (99,222 km) and price ($54,880) this might be worth a look... https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1999-porsche-911-carrera-996-manual/OAG-AD-19221224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 24 minutes ago, JWM said: No details or pics in their ad right now but based on the km (99,222 km) and price ($54,880) this might be worth a look... https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1999-porsche-911-carrera-996-manual/OAG-AD-19221224 Oh the suspense..... GC9911 and JWM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC9911 Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 4 hours ago, michel said: @smit2100 thx for the top up, good re/post. the 996.2 I bought is exactly in the lightly modded sorted category , only would wish for a bit more grunt . Sorry Michel, Recently I’ve seen no evidence you need more grunt, hard enough to keep you in view now 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakroo Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 16:10, CapnHyaku said: .... a square peg in a round hole.... As an aside - I've never understood this saying. Any time the diagonal of the peg is smaller than the diameter of the hole then the peg will fit in the hole. Just sayin'...... firstone and LeeM 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnHyaku Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 1 minute ago, jakroo said: Any time the diagonal of the peg is smaller than the diameter of the hole then the peg will fit in the hole. Of course engineers can make a square peg fit in a round hole. Just look at the 914! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 15 minutes ago, jakroo said: As an aside - I've never understood this saying. Any time the diagonal of the peg is smaller than the diameter of the hole then the peg will fit in the hole. Just sayin'...... Just think of yourself as the peg, and society as the hole ... You've never fitted in, nor will you ... your head is bigger than than the (w)hole of society ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 4 hours ago, LeeM said: A members car and its a cracker. What's his name here @hugh? @NB 911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakroo Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 11 hours ago, Dreamr said: ... your head is bigger than than the (w)hole of society ... because it explodes a little bit each and every time I have to deal with any one other than myself. PS love you too buddy...anyway back to the thread..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naldz88 Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 Change of pace in topic, could start a new thread but everyone is flapping away here. I had a strange rattle in the exhaust I have been trying to find for weeks. It was evident when I took my foot off the throttle at town speeds, didn’t matter what the gear. I finally found it from many hours on rennlist and crawling around under the car. Has anyone had trouble or experience with the bracket that hangs from a clamp on the exhaust and is welded to just behind the exhaust tip? Apparently the weld cracks fairly often. Some people have it fixed, others have removed the bracket all together. Any ideas or thoughts? I have removed the bracket for now which has sorted the issue. The photo with the cracked weld is from my car. The photo with the red circle is from a 997 I think off rennlist but give you an idea of the bracket. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 15 hours ago, GC9911 said: Sorry Michel, Recently I’ve seen no evidence you need more grunt, hard enough to keep you in view now 😂😂😂 Too kind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 15October, 2020 Report Share Posted 15October, 2020 On 14/10/2020 at 17:39, JWM said: No details or pics in their ad right now but based on the km (99,222 km) and price ($54,880) this might be worth a look... https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1999-porsche-911-carrera-996-manual/OAG-AD-19221224 And sold already apparently, with no pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 15October, 2020 Report Share Posted 15October, 2020 17 minutes ago, DT said: And sold already apparently, with no pics. Downright rude isn’t it... 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tips Posted 18October, 2020 Report Share Posted 18October, 2020 New manual C4S hit the market in Adelaide yesterday looks a nice spec certainly up there in price https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2003-porsche-911-carrera-4s-996-manual-awd-my03/SSE-AD-6867140 Dreamr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 18October, 2020 Report Share Posted 18October, 2020 21 minutes ago, Tips said: New manual C4S hit the market in Adelaide yesterday looks a nice spec certainly up there in price https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2003-porsche-911-carrera-4s-996-manual-awd-my03/SSE-AD-6867140 Very optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 18October, 2020 Report Share Posted 18October, 2020 48 minutes ago, TINGY996 said: Very optimistic. What the 40 horse power from air fiter, mufflers,and intake or the price ? firstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 18October, 2020 Report Share Posted 18October, 2020 8 minutes ago, tomo said: What the 40 horse power from air fiter, mufflers,and intake or the price ? Price, although i would like to see some proof of the 40hp gains. tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 18October, 2020 Report Share Posted 18October, 2020 1 hour ago, Tips said: New manual C4S hit the market in Adelaide yesterday looks a nice spec certainly up there in price https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2003-porsche-911-carrera-4s-996-manual-awd-my03/SSE-AD-6867140 Probably thought that if it's priced a little lower than the grey one that's been sitting on the market for the last 5 months, it'll look cheap. As much as I'd love to see them climb in value, just don't think thats happened yet to that price ... although all he needs is 1 buyer and stranger things have happened .. firstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 18October, 2020 Report Share Posted 18October, 2020 The walls have ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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