Jason A Posted 30October, 2020 Report Share Posted 30October, 2020 1 hour ago, hugh said: I recall it being for sale out of WA before it ended up in SA. We are going back quite a while though. Hi @Hugh that is how I recall it also hugh and micknine01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 30October, 2020 Report Share Posted 30October, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jason A said: Hi @Hugh that is how I recall it also That was way back when in the sub 100k 996 GT3 glut. Sat on the market for ages, circa 80k. Jason A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear924 Posted 30October, 2020 Report Share Posted 30October, 2020 On 28/10/2020 at 19:49, Cam Arnott said: Curious to get people thoughts on this one given the lack of service history in the book? Given that there is a very limited pool of these cars to choose from, and assuming that the car checks out fine from a PPI, what's the price penalty for no history? And I guess the non bucket comfort seats... So this is my car, however I'll give you my thoughts from when I went on my GT3 purchasing journey. I fully appreciate the difficulty of pricing my car .. even now I don't really know what it's worth as what data points do you use? There's not a great number of 996.1 GT3s come up for sale ... most that come up are some version of CS ... the threads prior to this one show how hard that quagmire is to sort out. Throw in a lack of service history and mix it up and you come up with ??? To counter this, basically this is a very straight and honest car. Due to the challenges listed above I had two independent PPIs completed .. in some way to find an excuse not to 'have to' determine a price. The PPI came back all clear. No over revs, no indication of accidents, the body is in pretty good condition. In short there was nothing wrong with the car apart from an absence of paperwork telling me that was the case. The interior is showing some marks here and there, however for a twenty year old car I feel it presents pretty well. Then you're left with the fact it doesn't have 'the' seats and the roll cage. I asked myself what I wanted to use the car for, and determined that as I didn't want to track the car, the roll cage and associated equipment wasn't really of that much value to me. To be honest, when I have the car loaded up for a week away driving twisties, having access to the rear of the car to put luggage is really helpful. So when I realised this I asked myself how often do you actually see GT3s with non sport seats and I determined it's actually quite rare. The final part for me was the fact that I actually enjoy working on my cars. I could spent $40k more and get a car with all the service history and low kilometers... but then I'd be nervous about driving it in case I added too many kms, I'd have to drive it for hours just to get it serviced (I live in the boonies) and I wouldn't get to create the bond I find I get with cars when I've spent some time grazing knuckles and cursing double jointed German car builders. I stressed and strained then just went and purchased the car and discovered that 996.1 GT3s really are as much fun as all the rumors suggest. As someone who typically owns their Porches for decades (924T currently going on 21 years and previous SC was 10 years) I decided that I'd just get a GT3 that worked for me and not get too stressed about purchasing an investment. Thankfully I'm not in a position of having to sell my car, the only reason I put it up for sale is that we're currently moving towns and I'm having trouble find appropriate accommodation for my 'collection'. That said, since listing last weekend we've made some progress of sorting out this issue. I expect I'll probably just remove my car in the next few weeks and then I won't need to be stressed about the day I sold one of Porsche's most important models purely because I was struggling to find garage space. What I have found interesting is that the people who have contacted me about my GT3 are enthusiasts with some very nice Porsche collections. I think the opportunity for a 'normal' enthusiast to get into one of these cars is slowly drifting away. I certainly doubt I'll be able to get back into the market if I sell mine .. certainly not one that isn't very tired. luzzo, Rick V, RwGreeny and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason A Posted 31October, 2020 Report Share Posted 31October, 2020 Hey Wayne we were chatting about you and your GT3 today, we all said - try to keep it if you can bear924 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RwGreeny Posted 31October, 2020 Report Share Posted 31October, 2020 Do not sell it if you don’t have to, and the excuse of not having a garage isn’t reason enough! Just use it as a daily and park it on the street. Your mental health and happiness will be richer for it! bear924 and micknine01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Arnott Posted 2November, 2020 Report Share Posted 2November, 2020 Thanks for sharing Wayne, the one I am at looking at is very similar to yours hence my questions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st3ve Posted 2November, 2020 Report Share Posted 2November, 2020 On 31/10/2020 at 00:44, bear924 said: What I have found interesting is that the people who have contacted me about my GT3 are enthusiasts with some very nice Porsche collections. I think the opportunity for a 'normal' enthusiast to get into one of these cars is slowly drifting away. I certainly doubt I'll be able to get back into the market if I sell mine .. certainly not one that isn't very tired. Don't sell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Arnott Posted 4November, 2020 Report Share Posted 4November, 2020 On 30/10/2020 at 22:30, Asyd said: No fear. the only arena red gt3 CS lives in Sydney Andre paint is fine.......... Ahh yep must be one of the orange pearl metallic cars then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 4November, 2020 Report Share Posted 4November, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cam Arnott said: Ahh yep must be one of the orange pearl metallic cars then.... Zanzibar Red 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Arnott Posted 4November, 2020 Report Share Posted 4November, 2020 9 minutes ago, luzzo said: Zanzibar Red 😉 Yeah that one! I've always been curious why the list of Aussie delivered cars notes it as OPM but most call it Zanzibar.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 4November, 2020 Report Share Posted 4November, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cam Arnott said: Yeah that one! I've always been curious why the list of Aussie delivered cars notes it as OPM but most call it Zanzibar.....? Yep, it is the same colour. But interesting/strange about the colour name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadsTas Posted 5November, 2020 Report Share Posted 5November, 2020 $179,990 Red one advised as now sold..... Back to 2 x Arctic Silver + Rusty's car available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asyd Posted 5November, 2020 Report Share Posted 5November, 2020 On 30/10/2020 at 23:05, luzzo said: Ahh, I feel better. Thanks @Asyd. Great colour Arena, you should post up a Pic. Back to check the factory specs now @Cam Arnott. You've caused enough concern now luzzo, TwoHeadsTas, Troubleshooter and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadsTas Posted 5November, 2020 Report Share Posted 5November, 2020 18 minutes ago, Asyd said: Lovely colour!!!!! Looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 5November, 2020 Report Share Posted 5November, 2020 1 hour ago, Asyd said: Arena Red... GT3 fast with Class. PDean and TwoHeadsTas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadsTas Posted 6November, 2020 Report Share Posted 6November, 2020 Bear924's car now on hold, so now back to 1 + Rusty's car........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear924 Posted 6November, 2020 Report Share Posted 6November, 2020 On 31/10/2020 at 15:52, Jason A said: Hey Wayne we were chatting about you and your GT3 today, we all said - try to keep it if you can Well today I finalised my car storage for the new year. Tonight my car was removed from carsales. Love win win situations. Suspect my GT3 will be in my hot little hands for many more years as I have no idea what I would replace it with. Mike-S, Dalai, grantmr and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick V Posted 6November, 2020 Report Share Posted 6November, 2020 What’s the go with the Silver .2 sitting there? Looks like reasonably good value, when considering recent sales of the two in Adelaide (red & black ones) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Chops Posted 6November, 2020 Report Share Posted 6November, 2020 On 31/10/2020 at 00:44, bear924 said: So this is my car, however I'll give you my thoughts from when I went on my GT3 purchasing journey. I fully appreciate the difficulty of pricing my car .. even now I don't really know what it's worth as what data points do you use? There's not a great number of 996.1 GT3s come up for sale ... most that come up are some version of CS ... the threads prior to this one show how hard that quagmire is to sort out. Throw in a lack of service history and mix it up and you come up with ??? To counter this, basically this is a very straight and honest car. Due to the challenges listed above I had two independent PPIs completed .. in some way to find an excuse not to 'have to' determine a price. The PPI came back all clear. No over revs, no indication of accidents, the body is in pretty good condition. In short there was nothing wrong with the car apart from an absence of paperwork telling me that was the case. The interior is showing some marks here and there, however for a twenty year old car I feel it presents pretty well. Then you're left with the fact it doesn't have 'the' seats and the roll cage. I asked myself what I wanted to use the car for, and determined that as I didn't want to track the car, the roll cage and associated equipment wasn't really of that much value to me. To be honest, when I have the car loaded up for a week away driving twisties, having access to the rear of the car to put luggage is really helpful. So when I realised this I asked myself how often do you actually see GT3s with non sport seats and I determined it's actually quite rare. The final part for me was the fact that I actually enjoy working on my cars. I could spent $40k more and get a car with all the service history and low kilometers... but then I'd be nervous about driving it in case I added too many kms, I'd have to drive it for hours just to get it serviced (I live in the boonies) and I wouldn't get to create the bond I find I get with cars when I've spent some time grazing knuckles and cursing double jointed German car builders. I stressed and strained then just went and purchased the car and discovered that 996.1 GT3s really are as much fun as all the rumors suggest. As someone who typically owns their Porches for decades (924T currently going on 21 years and previous SC was 10 years) I decided that I'd just get a GT3 that worked for me and not get too stressed about purchasing an investment. Thankfully I'm not in a position of having to sell my car, the only reason I put it up for sale is that we're currently moving towns and I'm having trouble find appropriate accommodation for my 'collection'. That said, since listing last weekend we've made some progress of sorting out this issue. I expect I'll probably just remove my car in the next few weeks and then I won't need to be stressed about the day I sold one of Porsche's most important models purely because I was struggling to find garage space. What I have found interesting is that the people who have contacted me about my GT3 are enthusiasts with some very nice Porsche collections. I think the opportunity for a 'normal' enthusiast to get into one of these cars is slowly drifting away. I certainly doubt I'll be able to get back into the market if I sell mine .. certainly not one that isn't very tired. Sensible. Every word of it. Many points you have raised describes what I believe to be a real malaise in Porsche ownership. Too many people conentrating on things that shouldn't matter, but do, because we've become obsessed with collectability and value. I for one will symathetically thrash the balls off mine and in 10 years time it will have patina and provinance of the best type. The kind I gave it. And my 'joy' bank account will be overflowing. RwGreeny, Mike-S, LeeM and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 7November, 2020 Report Share Posted 7November, 2020 Bravo @Pork Chops 👏👏👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Arnott Posted 8November, 2020 Report Share Posted 8November, 2020 On 07/11/2020 at 09:23, Pork Chops said: Sensible. Every word of it. Many points you have raised describes what I believe to be a real malaise in Porsche ownership. Too many people conentrating on things that shouldn't matter, but do, because we've become obsessed with collectability and value. I for one will symathetically thrash the balls off mine and in 10 years time it will have patina and provinance of the best type. The kind I gave it. And my 'joy' bank account will be overflowing. Unfortunately given that the price of entry is well into 6 figures, collectability and value are very real things to most people looking to invest that sort of money into a toy. Its all relative I guess depending on your own financial situation 😉 LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson59 Posted 8November, 2020 Report Share Posted 8November, 2020 2 hours ago, Cam Arnott said: Unfortunately given that the price of entry is well into 6 figures, collectability and value are very real things to most people looking to invest that sort of money into a toy. Its all relative I guess depending on your own financial situation 😉 Yep price of entry is expensive but price of exit is exceptional. I look at these cars being virtually free to own as long as you can pony up the entry fee to start with . I have owned 3 GT3 cars now all of different series if I choose to tap out now none of them would have cost me a cent . Money well spent IMO . TwoHeadsTas, Shedpest, edgy and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick V Posted 8November, 2020 Report Share Posted 8November, 2020 Hey @wilson59......nice form..... what are you like on the share market !? 😁 TwoHeadsTas and LeeM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson59 Posted 8November, 2020 Report Share Posted 8November, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rick V said: Hey @wilson59......nice form..... what are you like on the share market !? 😁 No good at that . Put all my money into a car 😀 Rick V and LeeM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 8November, 2020 Report Share Posted 8November, 2020 Just now, wilson59 said: No good at that . Put all my money into a car 😀 And I was about to give you $10k to get me a nice return! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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