Jason A Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 Each way bet, good idea ? ? Safe bet in P car world also, there are some of us who actually have lost money on these cars in the past Shock horror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 52 minutes ago, 901er said: So if the yellow CS sold for mid 2's in 2 weeks and a 50km touring can't sell for mid 1's then I guess we know which one is more sort after ? Or was it just because of the 11 kms? Maybe i should own one of each, just to be sure Seriously , sold or they drugged the guy. One sale dont define a market , no fool is worth following Buy the the touring and offer 20k below and lets get real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOKA Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 Question out of left field.. Are (in particular 996) GT3's monsters in terms of price to service and maintain..? I know its a bit of a silly question - if you can't afford, don't ask - but I'd like a bit of confirmation either way. TIA.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 7 minutes ago, WOKA said: Question out of left field.. Are (in particular 996) GT3's monsters in terms of price to service and maintain..? I know its a bit of a silly question - if you can't afford, don't ask - but I'd like a bit of confirmation either way. TIA.! Most owners have no idea they dont drive em mate .. especially the 996's they are rare as 997 , 9,000kms , so far $13k , not tracked .. probably still more on the per lap rate , as it aint been tracked in that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOKA Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 1 minute ago, symsy said: Most owners have no idea they dont drive em mate .. especially the 996's they are rare as 997 , 9,000kms , so far $13k , not tracked .. probably still more on the per lap rate , as it aint been tracked in that . Yeah.. But is that 13k in improvements or maintenance..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 6 minutes ago, WOKA said: Yeah.. But is that 13k in improvements or maintenance..! Maint on a low Kms car , well , plus a set of tyres .. its hard to improve on a 997 CS mate .. I guess you could take shit out and pretend its a 996 I guess like the upgrades dont matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 13 minutes ago, WOKA said: Question out of left field.. Are (in particular 996) GT3's monsters in terms of price to service and maintain..? I know its a bit of a silly question - if you can't afford, don't ask - but I'd like a bit of confirmation either way. TIA.! Obviously depends on the type and level of usage. I've previously considered buying a 996 cup car and on the whole for the hours (all being track time) they are pretty robust and relatively inexpensive when compared to similar GT level track cars. The 996 cup and 996 GT3 are not hugely different, biggest cost is fuel, then tyres! @James P would be able to fill you in more but on the whole they are pretty good value in terms of performance vs running costs. Cant comment re 997's though. WOKA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason A Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 Agree with Hugh, if you track your GT3 or most Porsches - over time biggest cost is tyres, then service. GT3 road car with small amount of track work (which is compulsory BTW) I would allow $4k p.a. If you keep it long enough and use it, you might even break even. If you don’t, who cares - just enjoy the car WOKA, GTP911 and Asyd 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tinker Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 If you look at your local OPC website, their fixed price servicing is about the same for a 996 GT3 as a comparable Carrera - at least it is in Brisbane. However, if you start looking at wear items, pricing gets more substantial. Front brake pads alone are about $900 a pair for the 996 .2 fronts alone + installation (which is very simple), rears a little less $. Suspension arms & drop links about the same as a Carrera / Boxster until you start sourcing the adjustable GT3 control arms and shocks - big $$. Cooling & A/C system rads and overflow reservoir same as Carrera's. Bodywork items roughly equivalent to Carrera / Boxster except for the aero kit - I think the 6.2 rear wing alone is over $7,000. The really big costs surround the engine and transmission - there was talk over on Rennlist last year quoting something like $US40,000 for the engine alone. That equates to $1.2 million here in Australia, so don't drop a valve or break a rod ..... GTP911, MichaelF and DJM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted 16February, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 11 hours ago, WOKA said: Question out of left field.. Are (in particular 996) GT3's monsters in terms of price to service and maintain..? I know its a bit of a silly question - if you can't afford, don't ask - but I'd like a bit of confirmation either way. TIA.! I had my car serviced last week @ PC Gold Coast intermediate service $1300 no more than a land cruiser. WOKA and GTP911 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 21 minutes ago, Mick said: I had my car serviced last week @ PC Gold Coast intermediate service $1300 no more than a land cruiser. At 200+ an hour .. I really wonder what you get ?.. I have never paid so much as as being positioned for very simple work.. in most cases. These cars are modular.. most motor sport shops , deal with mechanical items on these things every day. Sometimes every week or two on a cup car .. they are very engineered. I get the specialised info from computers and plug in, but I have already seen 50% margins in parts. Mine will be serviced at the dealer but my extra consumables , dealt with in other ways perhaps by a cup car prep team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted 16February, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 14 minutes ago, symsy said: At 200+ an hour .. I really wonder what you get ?.. I have never paid so much as as being positioned for very simple work.. in most cases. These cars are modular.. most motor sport shops , deal with mechanical items on these things every day. Sometimes every week or two on a cup car .. they are very engineered. I get the specialised info from computers and plug in, but I have already seen 50% margins in parts. Mine will be serviced at the dealer but my extra consumables , dealt with in other ways perhaps by a cup car prep team. Yeah I didn’t say I liked the price as such for a car I’d done 2000ks in in a year but more to keep the service book up for the day I have to deal with a buyer who’s going to drive me mad with bullshit if I don’t have every service done by a PC las t year u was quoted 1100 to supply and fit new brake ducts?? i bought them ex UK 48pounds had them fitted for free this year actual cost less than a$100 symsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mick said: Yeah I didn’t say I liked the price as such for a car I’d done 2000ks in in a year but more to keep the service book up for the day I have to deal with a buyer who’s going to drive me mad with bullshit if I don’t have every service done by a PC las t year u was quoted 1100 to supply and fit new brake ducts?? i bought them ex UK 48pounds had them fitted for free this year actual cost less than a$100 AGREED , expensive bits of paper , sent you a pm, with some info, got some of those expensive A4 sheets myself myfriend from PCGC Mick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted 16February, 2018 Report Share Posted 16February, 2018 12 hours ago, hugh said: Obviously depends on the type and level of usage. I've previously considered buying a 996 cup car and on the whole for the hours (all being track time) they are pretty robust and relatively inexpensive when compared to similar GT level track cars. The 996 cup and 996 GT3 are not hugely different, biggest cost is fuel, then tyres! @James P would be able to fill you in more but on the whole they are pretty good value in terms of performance vs running costs. Cant comment re 997's though. The 996 cup & 997 GT3 are about the same cost to maintain if used in the same way i.e 100% track time in my case, the main running costs are tyres, disks, pads, brake fluid, oil & fuel, here is what i have paid recently as they are the same parts for both cars Tyres: Cup slicks Hankook set $2100. GT3 Yokohama A050 set $2600 i think? Disks: Fronts $440 for the pair.. yes thats $440 AUD for 2 front disks they are DBA motorsport disks for a Cayenne Pads: Front & rear set $750 Ferodo's from the UK Brake fluid: Castrol SRF $130 for 1 liter Oil filter: $30 to $40 Castrol 10w 60 oil: $75 each you need 2 for a change & i change it every 200km or every second track day in the Cup Car (change it every 5 track days in the 997 GT3) I do all the minor work my self thats what i enjoy (anything big I'm lucky i have friends that are ex Porsche motorsport mechanics with hoists) The 996 GT3 will be about the same cost GTP911 and Fraz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tinker Posted 17February, 2018 Report Share Posted 17February, 2018 James, Do you use the Castrol 10W60 oil in your GT3 as well as the Cup car? I hear its the "go to" oil to use for the track - but what about road use, or are both you cars purely track hounds? I've been contemplating changing from Shell 5W40 Helix Ultra (which I have used for years) to something that helps recuce cold startup noise after the car has sat for a week or two..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted 17February, 2018 Report Share Posted 17February, 2018 20 minutes ago, Stephen Tinker said: James, Do you use the Castrol 10W60 oil in your GT3 as well as the Cup car? I hear its the "go to" oil to use for the track - but what about road use, or are both you cars purely track hounds? I've been contemplating changing from Shell 5W40 Helix Ultra (which I have used for years) to something that helps recuce cold startup noise after the car has sat for a week or two..... The oil debate is an endless one.. my old 997 GT3 was track use only & i used 10w60 same as my current 996 Cup Car. i would use the same10w60 if it was a road car as I'm after protection rather than performance.. Just change it more often Eeveryone will have a different opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 19February, 2018 Report Share Posted 19February, 2018 Talking about cups, any good ones about? Seems like all the 6 cups are bought up! 7 cups are about in good numbers... I often wonder if I should sell my 7.1 and buy a cup instead as I really only go to the track with it these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTP911 Posted 20February, 2018 Report Share Posted 20February, 2018 WOW _ SENSATIONAL GT3 _ must be a hard decision to sell _ GLWS. https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-1999/SSE-AD-5276017/?Cr=1 TrevMcRev, Rod C, hugh and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red clubbie Posted 20February, 2018 Report Share Posted 20February, 2018 Strong price with the k's it has......hope he gets it Cheers, Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknine01 Posted 20February, 2018 Report Share Posted 20February, 2018 Don't we normally rubbish guys that only add a few pics and tell us that they are non negotiable? ?? glws Hugh! Looks awesome hugh and GTP911 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
356993??? Posted 20February, 2018 Report Share Posted 20February, 2018 9 hours ago, Windsor289 said: WOW _ SENSATIONAL GT3 _ must be a hard decision to sell _ GLWS. https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-1999/SSE-AD-5276017/?Cr=1 For that car, at that price, two ways of looking at it being yours: 1- current bargain 2- your not a cat, you only live once hugh and GTP911 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 20February, 2018 Report Share Posted 20February, 2018 Pffft, tell him he's dreamin ☺ Troubleshooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Posted 20February, 2018 Report Share Posted 20February, 2018 19 hours ago, Windsor289 said: WOW _ SENSATIONAL GT3 _ must be a hard decision to sell _ GLWS. https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-1999/SSE-AD-5276017/?Cr=1 Clever ad @hugh, the dalliance with the water cooled dark side has come to an end? Looks sensational as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 20February, 2018 Report Share Posted 20February, 2018 Simply beautiful Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 20February, 2018 Report Share Posted 20February, 2018 @Ozvino Nostradamus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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